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Author: KJC
Date: 2014-08-27 16:48
Hello everyone,
I'm curious about this new model by Fox, the Fox Sayen (model 880). Has anyone tried it or does anyone play one now? If so, what do you think of it? How does it compare to a Loree?
Kate
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Author: wrowand
Date: 2014-08-28 00:48
I haven't played one, but I heard nice things about it from some other oboists. To me, the keywork looks kind of clunky, but I don't think that would interfere with its playability.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-08-28 04:22
Are there any photos of this oboe? There's only the description on Fox's site but no photos.
But from what I gather they're offering a wide diameter joint prestige level oboe.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: KJC
Date: 2014-08-28 14:03
Chris,
This is the only picture I've found:
http://www.innoledy.com/graphics/products/instruments/oboes/sayen.jpg
Kate
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Author: Wufus
Date: 2014-08-29 19:41
I tried it very briefly at the IDRS. It is a true professional level oboe. It played very nicely. It is a completely new design. A lot of very positive reaction from those who have played it. I wish I had a better reed and more time to fully evaluate it. Absolutely worth a try.
Frank
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Author: KJC
Date: 2014-08-30 02:08
Thanks for your responses. I'm going to the IDRS for the first time in 2016 and may buy one! Have a nice weekend.
Kate
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Author: CocoboloKid
Date: 2014-09-07 21:24
The Fox Sayen is one of the most wonderful new oboes I've played in quite some time...I've played about six of them so far, and they are remarkably consistent. They are a big departure from what Fox has been making thus far, both physically and tonally. They are a larger-diameter instrument, and the sound is VERY full and dark and rich. The low register in particular speaks very well and the scale is quite good.
They've also jumped on the gold-plated bands/posts bandwagon, and I'm quite happy about it. (I love the look!)
If you're in the market for a top-line oboe, you should DEFINITELY give the Sayen a shot.
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Author: oboesage
Date: 2014-09-10 16:40
Oboe Chicago "Shawna" has one for trial I believe if you wished to trial one and see for yourself. This is not a sales plug just a suggestion .
G
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Author: KJC
Date: 2014-09-11 02:23
Oboesage,
I may do that when I am ready to buy one. I bought my current oboe through a dealer. I am just researching right now. The idea of buying an American made oboe really appeals to me, and I can't afford a Laubin or rather, I don't think it's practical for me to get a Laubin.
I am interested to know what oboe you finally decide on! The Albrecht Mayer oboe seems really interesting. He's one of my favorite "Superstar" oboists.
Kate
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Author: oboesage
Date: 2014-09-11 03:40
Well its funny you should mention the Monnig Albrecht Mayer Model cause it is exactly what I decided on. The 920 and the Monnig 150 A were very good both of them but the engineering and extras on the Mayer Oboe was too good to pass up. It has a sweet sound though not as dark as the laubin. I love the Marigaux sound and I now also love the Monnig sound. Its alive, vibrant and very stable. The mayer has a very very nice lyric quality. I frankly don't like stodgy sound I like an alive vibrating, singing quality. The Marigauxs have this and I find the Monnigs have it too. I could have gone with either horn both were very fine and reed friendly. I think I will visit my friend the Martigaux again they are very nice, such a wonderful blending tone. I would have bought both if I could have afforded them both but there is always next time I played Loree's for 20 years but they were never as fine a sound as I have seen with the Marigaux's and the Monnig. I tried the Howarth XL's (4)and the keywork was good. Overall the XL's were good but they were very heavy and I did not think they had the SING in the high register I was looking for with my reed set.
George
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Author: Oboehotty
Date: 2015-02-08 07:11
I played three of the. This weekend at a music Ed conference. They were played against a Howarth XL, two AK Royales, a regular bore Loree Royale, and AK regular Loree. I was astonished at the Sayen! Absolutely blew the rest out of the water. I have payed Loree for years and recently switched to Marigaux. The sayed is an exquisite horn with fluidity. A dark focused sound, and great tuning. It's projection was wonderful! Plenty of resistance to blow against, but not so resistant that one would pop a vein! Marvelous horn....completely new feel from Fox!!!
Professor of Oboe - Youngstown State University
Howland Local Schools - MS Dir. Of Bands/HS Asst. Dir (Marching, Symphonic)
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Author: matt_lin18
Date: 2015-02-08 07:53
The Fox website does have a full picture up of the Sayen now if anyone wants to take a look.
http://www.foxproducts.com/index.php/instruments/oboes/fox-model-880-oboe
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2015-02-08 08:13
Chris P wrote:
> - it won't work on links with # in them.
Yes it will. Fixed that about 6 months ago.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-02-08 21:22
Nice one!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Oboe Craig
Date: 2015-02-09 20:31
I followed your links via your email info and your sound cloud samples are simply great.
If you can, please make a few comments about your oboe, shaped, etc.
Pics of reeds would also be instructional. Here or on your site.
Anyway, wonderful stuff.... thanks.
-Craig
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Author: oboeandy
Date: 2015-02-11 06:42
Hi Craig! Thank you for your kind words. You really made my day. It looks like two different conversations may have gotten tangled, though, as I haven't commented in this thread about the Fox Sayen oboes (which I hear are very nice).
Anyway, to answer your questions, I have two grenadilla Laubin oboes. The one you heard on my Soundcloud page is unusual in that it's a Laubin that was built with a third octave key. My gouge is an RDG and my three favorite shaper tips are the Westwind Lucarelli, Adam Caleb -1, and Nagamatsu 1. If you have any other questions, please feel free to email me.
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Author: Oboe Craig
Date: 2015-02-11 22:40
Thank you. Did your earlier post(s) post disappear? (Or am I on the wrong thread?)
I think I responded to the relative position of a post prior to Chris P's from the night before.
Anyway, I am glad I saved a link to your playing. And thanks for the details.
-Craig
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