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 Buffet Crampon Carl Fischer Help
Author: bobbyb 
Date:   2014-07-29 08:11
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I've come across this old oboe and I need help identifying it..

It appears to be a Buffet Crampon Carl Fischer New York Oboe. Made in France. All wood.

Heres a gallery I made on imgur.
http://imgur.com/a/AY4oD

I've been told it's silver plated and would shine up real nicely and one repair shop guy thought it was from 1929. He also said because of the several options of restoration of pads and cork that I should find the buyer first so they can choose how they want it set up.

The wood is completely intact and everything is functional. The pads and cork need to be replaced. It appears to be in the original box with the original reed case and cleaning tool.

My question is What model is this? The oldest serial I can find is 0864(1924) and this is 0869. One guy told me that Buffet lost a lot of their records in WWII. I'm pretty sure this sat in the box for over 60 years in an attic that had air conditioning so I think this is a pretty rare find.

What do you think the value of something like this would be and would you restore it or sell it as is? I'm a clarinet player and didn't know anyone in my family ever played this so it had to be sitting there in the box for years, but it was in my grandmothers house and I found it cleaning it out after it was sold.



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 Re: Buffet Crampon Carl Fischer Help
Author: jhoyla 
Date:   2014-07-29 10:45

Are you sure that the yellow color of the keys isn't base-metal, where the silver plating has worn away? Normally, tarnished silver goes black.

Is the bore polished and smooth, or very grainy? Are there any cracks? Look around the trill-key area 2/3 up the top joint. Does it hold a vacuum?

The keywork is roughly equivalent to that of a modern low-end student model, but with open-hole keywork (which is unusual nowadays).
It lacks a LH F and I cannot see from your pictures if it has a forked-F vent or not. It does not have a B-C connection, I think.
It does have the C#-D# connection and it has semi-automatic octaves, which is standard in the USA.

I have no idea what it would fetch after a full restore, but almost certainly not more than a second-hand student model :( Oboes don't have "rarity value". If it sings, it sings.

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Carl Fischer Help
Author: bobbyb 
Date:   2014-07-29 16:06

This guy that repairs them said he could shine up all that silver. he also said it's a intermediate to professional and that the wood was in good shape. He also said because that it's Carl Fischer New York he might be able to find a buyer.

The guy has repaired oboes for 20 years.. I don't know. I guess I should have more repair people take a look at it. He said he would give me 1200 right now, but he thought that was stealing it from me.. LOL! Should I take the 1200 or you think I could fetch more cleaning it up and repadding it. I felt like it could be worth more.

The lighting from my office is slightly yellow and the camera wasn't great quality

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 Re: Buffet Crampon Carl Fischer Help
Author: jhoyla 
Date:   2014-07-29 17:06

I'm not really into giving evaluations - I was just describing what I could see of the instrument. It does not seem like an intermediate instrument to me.

Go take a look at the auction web-site and see what 1200 can buy you.

J.

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