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Author: darryoboe
Date: 2014-07-25 00:27
Does anyone here have a photo of a Philly High D mechanism?
I was trying to describe it to someone and failed miserably. A picture would make much more sense.
Thanks!
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Author: mjfoboe
Date: 2014-07-25 00:53
Here's a pic ... it is on the Oboe.
Post Edited (2014-07-25 02:49)
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Author: Oboe Craig
Date: 2014-07-26 20:30
That extra screw on the low c key reaches down to contact a lever below the split-d ring assembly.
Depress just the c key to see it work. It will close other keys above the d, but its real purpose for high d is to close just the inner ring on the low d.
According to Ginger Ramsay at Covey oboes where mine was made, the inner d key should close 'almost' all the way leaving it slightly vented for best performance.
I have tried to that way and completely closed and find Ginger's advice the best for my oboe.
Lacking a facilitator on my former Loree and older Covey, John Mack showed me if I quickly lift the LH first finger when approaching the d, and then quickly put it back, it gives a similar benefit to the d facilitator key.
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Author: darryoboe
Date: 2014-07-27 03:59
Thanks, Craig - I figured that trick out as well. I do either that or "half-hole" the split-ring D key to slur up to a high D.
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Author: wkleung
Date: 2014-07-27 08:59
I wonder what effect would the Philly high D mechanism on the high C# (one semi-tone below)?
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Author: newedit617
Date: 2014-07-28 19:05
This is such an interesting discussion because when I heard about how the Philly high D worked, my first thought was that it was redundant... because for years I've been playing high D with an extra key depressed! On the right hand I've been depressing not only the C key, but also D! I think I picked up this habit long ago on a Rigoutat REIC when the high D was consistently sharp. Also, on the soprano recorder which I also play, the fingerings are extremely similar to oboe. The recorder high D uses the right hand pinky and ring finger-- so it seemed a consistent transfer. I had since forgotten that this was not the "official" high D fingering on oboe. Last night I tried the correct D and it sounds so much better, even without the Philly D key. :-)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-07-28 21:12
If you hold down the low C key for the top D, you can check how the addition of a Philly D link will flatten it by holding the LH Eb key down (on full Gillet conservatoire models or others fitted with the split D/E trill mechanism) as the Philly D is basically the C key closing the lower half of the RH3 fingerplate down along with it via an extra adjusting screw on the C key and a tab or key arm soldered to either the side of the pad cup or key barrel of the lower part of the RH3 fingerplate.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: darryoboe
Date: 2014-08-11 17:29
I finally got around to testing. On my instrument closing the split-ring key has NO effect to either the tone or pitch of high C-sharp.
Post Edited (2014-08-11 17:32)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-08-11 17:47
What about the high D?
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: darryoboe
Date: 2014-08-12 01:01
It doesn't seem to affect the pitch or tone but makes it MUCH easier to slur up to the high D from a G or A.
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