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Author: thereedsmith
Date: 2012-03-15 19:35
Would anyone happen to know if either gouging cane wet or dry has an advantage of maintaining blade sharpness longer? It feels like I have to try harder to gouger dry but that it takes longer to gouge wet.
I am not as worried about the differances on the cane just on the blade. I have a great gouge right now and would like it to last as long as possible.
I could explain this to myself either way but would really like to hear from someone that has tested both options and seen the pros and cons.
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Author: Oboe Craig
Date: 2012-03-15 21:26
I have done it both ways with good results.
Now I gouge wet, because I do think the dry cane is more abrasive and dulls the blade sooner.
But I also use a planner Vs. real pre-gouger so the gouger has more work to do.
For a while I'd plane and do a basic unfinished gouge wet, and then finish it dry.
That using a double-radius gouger, and I am pretty sure it introduced more variables related to cane changing the contour of its arc while drying after a double-radius gouge. Its architecture was certainly altered. I wonder how that would work on single radius gouge? Perhaps I'll try that again.
One teacher thought that burnished the gouge for good results. And sometimes he'd place a few drop of vegetable oil on the cane right before dry gouging, trying to protect the blade.
Gouging dry does make for a slightly thicker gouge once the cane is soaked, so that can be helpful or not.
Aside from your concern about the blade, do you perceive any differences in how the reeds work dry-gouged Vs. wet? If you don't expect a positive playing impact, I'd stick with soaked cane for gouging.
-Craig
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Author: cjwright
Date: 2012-03-16 05:27
I've done it both ways.
Gouging dry:
1. Gouges a little thicker
2. Smoother gouge, without swiss cheese effect even if the cane is crap. This results in a more vibrant gouge overall.
3. Rather than shavings, you get dust. lots and lots of dust.
4. Dulls the blade faster
Gouging wet:
1. Gouges thinner, more variance depending on how long you soak your cane for.
2. Tells you more about the cane as to whether its denser or softer, smooth or rough.
3. Blade stays sharper a lot longer.
Nowadays I gouge wet.
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