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 Reed Variety and Cane/Staple Combos
Author: ReedIntoIt 
Date:   2012-02-27 18:02

Hello everyone!

I'm currently doing a research study on the instability of oboe reeds in relation to gouge, shape and staple.

If you're willing, I would like to know the following:

-What Gouger?
-What Shape?
-What Staple?
-What Weather type? (Ie, Moist Warm, Dry Warm, Etc.)

If you'd like to include you current information, such as current city of residence or State, that would be greatly appreciated!

Also, you can follow my progress here:

Don't Reed Into It!
http://reedintoit.wordpress.com/

Thanks for your help! I'll be posting several other threads for separate questions, so be sure to look for those!

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 Re: Reed Variety and Cane/Staple Combos
Author: huboboe 
Date:   2012-02-27 18:58

Over a 45 year career:

Reed style: Classic American

Gouger: First the RDG gouger, later my Westwind gouger (gouging aspects modeled after the RDG machine). Classic 45 - 60 - 46 single radius gouge

Shape: Brannen X

Staple: Classic Lorée. I sat down at Forrest's in the '60s with a box of 1000 Lorée staples and found 100 that fit my mandrel exactly. I've been using them ever since. (Eliminating variables - the key to successful reed making...)

Weather type: S.F. Bay Area/ Mediterranean climate

Early in my career I began saving aside reeds that were exceptional and measuring them. After a while it became clear that all my best reeds were very like each other. I have never had stability problems with reeds that conform to this architecture. Response problems, Dynamic range problems, resistance problems and the like, yes. These need to be addressed as related to the particular cane used, but stability has simply never been a problem for me.

My basic 'map' of the architecture is close enough to the one Martin Schuring suggests on his excellent web site [http://www.public.asu.edu/~schuring/Oboe/diagram.html] that the differences aren't worth discussing.

( Although I tend to use much less 'windows' in the back than most 'modern' players. I learned reed makingin the '50s before windows were widely used, and tend to use that scrape to balance the back/tip, rather than as a basic part of the architecture...)

Good luck with your study. I'll be interested to see the results.

Robert Hubbard
WestwindDoubleReed.com
1-888-579-6020
bob@westwinddoublereed.com

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 Re: Reed Variety and Cane/Staple Combos
Author: huboboe 
Date:   2012-02-27 19:10

Sorry - as Richard Nixon said, I misspoke myself.

My gouge description should have been 45 - 60 - 45...

Robert Hubbard
WestwindDoubleReed.com
1-888-579-6020
bob@westwinddoublereed.com

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 Re: Reed Variety and Cane/Staple Combos
Author: Loree BF51 
Date:   2012-02-28 01:03

In trying to remember back quite a ways, i.e., back to the '60's, Mr. Still specified 58-60 in the middle and about 40 on the sides, so would 45 on the sides be regarded as slightly thick? Also, he didn't want a spine showing in the center which was very prevalent back then, but rather a smooth decrease from center to edge, without a noticeable spine. Back then, he used a Bhosys machine. Thanks.

R. Still former student

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