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 oboe tonguing.
Author: oboe2 
Date:   2011-12-08 20:40

i have a hard time using the tip of my tongue to produce the sound.any help?.Also, what would be the best fingering(sound wise) for top e flat,f,f#,and g.im playing on a thumbplate oboe. And last how does the diaphragm help in playing pp or close to that.



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 Re: oboe tonguing.
Author: huboboe 
Date:   2011-12-09 05:49

Instead of using the tip of your tongue, use the part just behind the tip. Say, "d-d-d-d-d". Now tongue your reed the same way...

Your diaphragm sucks air into your lungs. Your abdominal muscles push it out again. Those muscles should always be tense while you are playing - this is what is termed 'support' and allows you to push more or less air in a controlled manner according to the dynamic required. Place your hand on your belly and shout, "HEY!!" as loudly as you can. The tightening of your abdominal muscles which you felt is what I am talking about.

It should be part of the preparation you make to play, along with stopping the reed with your tongue and putting air against the reed. Properly prepared the moment before you actually play, the only thing you need to to do is go 'Ta'.

A half second to a second before you start is not too much time and lets you think about what you are going to do after you start.

As one of my teachers once said to me, "To know what you are going to do before you do it is to be a great musician."

I'll leave the fingering question to those who play a thumbplate oboe...

Go practice!

Robert Hubbard
WestwindDoubleReed.com
1-888-579-6020
bob@westwinddoublereed.com

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 Re: oboe tonguing.
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2011-12-09 11:23

Question 1 and 3 can be solved with Lesson 3 from:

http://www.2reed.net/EwellArticles/BeginningBassoonist_DR23_2.pdf

Also watch:

http://youtu.be/zXfU1CiXVl0

As for fingerings, sorry but i do not play the Thumbplate system, but there are many possibilities for the fingerings you asked for which you can find on *surprise*: http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/oboe/ some may work or not work depending on:

1. reed system. opening of reed, type of scrape, staple type. bigger staples make the 3rd octave higher in pitch, vice versa. so bigger makes for sense for me as a more relaxed embouchure for good pitch always makes a more resonant sound. but then again that depends on the height of the low C key in relation to the low E key pad...zzzz....

2. third octave key or not, height of opening of 3rd octave pad. for most players the 3rd octave key should open very little.

3. height of half hole plate, depending on whether you lift or half hole for the chosen fingerings. most thumbplate players lift for the 3rd octave, therefore screw down the half hole plate until it is almost closed.

Good luck!

Regards,
Howard

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