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 pre-gouger
Author: HautboisJJ 
Date:   2011-01-01 13:28

I see such an advantage in having the latest of the 'reeds and stuff' type of pre-gouger which takes away the inner part of the cane before it goes into a traditional gouger. (which is why the innoledy machines seem to be so popular) Problem is of course, it is such an investment, especially at today's prices. Does everyone see a need for such a contraption, or what is everyone's alternative way to keep your gouging machine blades to last longer?

Regards,
Howard

p.s. i have a round type blade which is employed with a reeds and stuff gouger.

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 Re: pre-gouger
Author: cjwright 
Date:   2011-01-01 20:41

There were several predecessors to Udo's machine, one most notably being Jonathan Parkes of Rochester New York. It might be a hair less expensive.

Cooper

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 Re: pre-gouger
Author: RobinDesHautbois 
Date:   2011-01-02 03:21

A good question Howard,
By my own experience, limited to a beaten-up machine that I have always maintained myself (could never find anyone anywhere at any price to help!), I can only tell you this: it depends on your gouger!

The standard gouging machines should never care about the inside part of the cane. So long as the "walls" (the side curvature that gets removed even with a hand-held knife) are low enough.... as long as the arc of the cane is small enough to fit the machine's bed, the gouger blade will handle the rest with no negative effects at all. In other words, after the cane is split (and pre-gouged if necessary), the width should fit nicely in the bed and the blade should be able to cut at least all the width of the cane eventually.

However, the new Udo Heng machine with the cylindrical blade that gets turned.... I'm not sure how the cane gets pushed out of the way, so I don't know if a more expensive pre-gouger could prevent stoppages. I don't mean dammage to the blade, I mean cane pushing its way into parts of the machine it is never supposed to reach.

One thing that I have seen mentioned in several places (here, web sites and other literature) is that cane can suffer from being compressed. If your pregouger presses on the cane: might prefer not to get it. Same with gouging: we like really sharp blades not just for precision (the grain density reaks havoc on that!) but also so we don't have to press hard when gouging.

Best of luck!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!

Robin Tropper
M.A.Sc., B.Mus., B.Ed.
http://RobinDesHautbois.blogspot.ca/music

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