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 Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: larryb 
Date:   2003-01-02 20:36

A recent post by Cindy about some tonguing problems reminded me of a speech Bill Clinton gave recently to a group of music students and educators in Newark, NJ. Here's a part of it in the hope that it might inspire some struggling student clarinetists to stick with it:

"I never stopped loving music. It taught me both discipline and creativity. It taught
me to be an individual and how to play on a team. It taught me how to take
initiative and how to be patient. All these kids here, if you know any of them, you
ought to give them another hand after they leave, because, let me tell you
something, if you’re blowing on one of these instruments, you have to sound bad
for a good while before you start to sound good.... But you
have to understand what music does for you. First of all, it makes you use all of
yourself. I was asking John Sykes if my ears were bad or if Mariah Carey could
still hit 5 octaves. Now, you probably won’t be able to do that, but the point I
want to make is music, if you’re gonna be good at it, it requires your mind and
your body; it requires your heart and your soul. And when you give everything
to something, it unleashes your dreams and gives you the confidence that you
can live your dreams and therefore it is very good preparation for life. By the way,
it also really does help you develop your mind, so that schools with music
education programs have kids who do better in reading and math and science.
That’s actually true. This is good for you in the short run. But I’m interested in
your dreams and your spirit. So, I’m very grateful to the mayors and the
superintendent and the school board and everybody who is bringing music
education back to Newark. And I just want to tell you, when this is all over, if you
don’t remember anything else, remember that music can give you your dreams. It
will teach you hard work, it will break your heart and make you so happy you
can’t stand it, if you stay with it. Just remember, it might as well be you. And
music can help take you there."

The full text of this speech can be found on the Local 802 website: http://www.local802afm.org/frames/fs_news.cfm?xPublication=75841397

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: GBK 
Date:   2003-01-02 21:20

Bill Clinton was the best left-handed, saxophone-playing, Arkansas-born, Rhodes Scholarship winner, our country has ever elected as President...GBK

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: RonD 
Date:   2003-01-02 21:48

And a excelent teacher of morals?

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: joemich 
Date:   2003-01-02 22:36

..... what was the branch of the military that he served in????????

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: David 
Date:   2003-01-02 22:47

Whatever the man's failings, he was at least the closest thing you've had to a real Prez for quite some time. Not a patch on J. Bartlett though myself...

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-01-02 23:35

Enough. The quote was fine; the references to the man's personal life out of line.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Mike 
Date:   2003-01-03 01:43

He sure could play that sax. I think being a musician helped him as President. At least he was creative. So many public leaders in government and business seem to have no apprecation (or even knowledge) of the arts. It's a travesty in my opinion.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Brenda Siewert 
Date:   2003-01-03 02:18

I think his personal life should have been kept out of the People's White House.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Vaughn Stroheim 
Date:   2003-01-03 02:53

"Disipline"can not be used in the same sentence with Mr. Clinton. As far as his musicality goes, He plays a mean HarMonica.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Mark Pinner 
Date:   2003-01-03 02:59

If anybody thinks that Clinton can play the saxophone needs to get out more. Rank amateur bul**hit artist but that's politics. From a non American point of view he does appear to have had far more idea than the incumbent illiterate warmonger who was granted a dodgy decision by some court and now wants to destroy the world.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: RonD 
Date:   2003-01-03 03:09

But back to the intent of this BB how is his rhythm?

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Mark Charette, Webmaster 
Date:   2003-01-03 03:31

If you didn't hear me the 1st time, hear me now:

The thread is closed.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: FREE SPEECH EXPRESSION 
Date:   2003-01-03 06:11

Common Mark,Let people express their views. It's not as "contravercial as "Selmer vs. Buffet"and we're not living in Bagdad either.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Mike 
Date:   2003-01-03 11:58

What's the point of a discussion board if people can't discuss... I don't think there was anything wrong with what people have said.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-01-03 12:14

Mike wrote:
>
> What's the point of a discussion board if people can't
> discuss... I don't think there was anything wrong with what
> people have said.

I make the rules. Break them again and you and "FREE SPEECH" lose your posting privieges.

Mark C.

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Mike 
Date:   2003-01-03 14:56

What "rules" did I break??? I didn't mention Clinton's personal life. Is it illegal to talk about Clinton the musician? I think you owe me an apology.

Here's what I said the first time, since you obiously didn't read it:

He sure could play that sax. I think being a musician helped him as President. At least he was creative. So many public leaders in government and business seem to have no apprecation (or even knowledge) of the arts. It's a travesty in my opinion.

I will, however, comment on your personal life....you need to GET one!

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 RE: Bill Clinton for all students, amateurs, etc.
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   2003-01-03 15:38

Sorry to see you go, Mike. You've been with us for quite a while.

When I make a request, I expect it to be followed. Politics get out of hand very quickly.

It wasn't what you wrote the first time, it was your disrespect for my request that led to your posting privileges being withdrawn.

BTW - I read <b>every</b> post. Maybe it isn't so obvious ...

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