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Author: maria
Date: 2002-12-31 04:53
hi guys, I'm doing an essay about organology and i choosed the clarinet.I was wondering if you can relate the clarinet a particular style, genre, performer, repertoire, event etc from the 18th or 19th centuries.
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Author: Michael Blinn
Date: 2002-12-31 07:21
Nice try Maria, but I'm afraid you are not going to get many members of this board to fall for such fraud. Trying to be cute?
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-12-31 11:35
Maria -
As Michael says, you'll have to do your own research. That's what you're in school for.
Go to your music library, or your regular library if you're not near one devoted to music. The librarian will be happy to show you the article on the clarinet in Grove's Encyclopedia of Music, as well as books specifically about the clarinet, such as those by Brymer and Rendall.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Jean
Date: 2002-12-31 13:41
BTW, I believe you meant to say chose, not choosed. If spelling and grammar count you have some work ahead of you.
Jean
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Author: John
Date: 2002-12-31 14:18
Thanks to Maria, who helped me learn a new word today: organology. A search on Google brought forth some interesting web sites. Which leads me to my soapbox again. Why do bulletin board members have such a problem assisting a fellow member with research. Isn't that what the web is all about?
I agree with Ken's post, that the full answer is at the library and we have no responsibility to write someone's research paper. But, asking a question of knowledgeable people is research too, is it not? No fraud here that I can see.
So, in the spirit of this, here is a stab at an answer, or at least a direction to go in a very broad field of study. Maria, I think your best bet would be to look into the early stages of the clarinet in the 18th century. Ask the question, "What function did the clarinet fulfill in music transitioning from Baroque to Classical styles?" What role was it necessary to take on in musical groups that had not been needed before? And, what role did technology have in the improvements of the clarinet and its mechanisms? Well, time to go to work. Have a nice day and a great new year, everyone, and have a great time blowing my answer away!
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-12-31 15:35
In a forum such as this, it is very difficult to be sure that the "knowledgeable person" is indeed knowledgeable. Just scan the posts over the last several years to see some of the unsubstantiated claims that keep getting made over and over despite the fact that there is documented research to the contrary.
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Author: Hank
Date: 2002-12-31 16:11
Hi Dee,
Let me put my professor hat on for a minute and comment on your "knowledgeable person" and unsubstantiated claims" and that is to say you are right on. Hey, maybe you're a professor too.
Too many times, what is accepted as fact due to pomp and bluster of the speaker is often not substantiated by factual research (I enjoyed you comments during the recent "does the clarinet vibrate" string). Compounding the error that is thus introduced into the discussion is that we suddenly have some hearsay ideas that are now accepted as fact.
While Maria may be just having trouble getting started, which is a common problem among students working on initial ideas for a research paper, she must remember that citation of well accepted or soundly grounded sources is the only real basis for research hypothesis support or rejection.
Professor hat is off!
Hank
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-12-31 18:06
Hi, Maria
Your question, "...can you relate the clarinet a particular style, genre, performer, repertoire, event etc from the 18th or 19th centuries[?]" is a good one.
Personally, I find nothing wrong with asking it. In my opinion, yes, you can relate the clarinet to all of those areas. Good advice in John's response - choose any direction you like (topics you mentioned in you initial post), and follow it. Hank's words of caution about accepting heresay and whimsical conjectures is worth keeping in mind as you proceed.
Best wishes to you on your essay, Maria. Hope you have fun with it)
- ron b -
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Author: Michael Blinn
Date: 2003-01-01 03:43
Didn't anybody bother looking up the word 'organology'? According to my two dictionaries, it had nothing to do with music, let alone the clarinet.
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary states: organology is the study of the organs of plants and animals. That's why I think think this request for help by Maria is bogus.
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Author: Jim E.
Date: 2003-01-01 05:06
I too was unaware of the term "organology" though I've been involved with a lot of ologies! Michael, a quick trip to the land of Google brought me the information that the term is based on a greek word for "tool" or "instrument" and includes both human organs and musical instruments. Most of the links on the first page were to music sites. So Maria's proposed research direction seems germaine to the topic.
We seem to keep going around on this board about how much help should be offered to requests such as this one. Papers are usually assigned as much to help the student develop research skills and to draw valid conclusions (ie. THINK!) as to elicit actual information on the subject. To me, when we facilitate that research (as Ken Shaw does above) we do the student a great service, but when we do the actual work, we do no service at all.
The assets for research available to students now is just amazing compared to when I was an undergraduate just 30 years ago. (I'm starting to sound like my parents when they talked about how hard they had it in the depression.) I guess my message is to use all of this, and ask for help more with intepretation issues, or on finding obscure data. Someone posted a few weeks ago looking for information on composer Edmund Avon, and listed the sources that had already been unsuccessfully tried. That's the type of reasearch situation that the board posters can validly assist with.
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Author: Preston
Date: 2003-01-01 14:39
Give the poor girl a break! She's not asking us to write the essay for her; she's asking for a little help getting started.
Why don't you research some of the early clarinet virtuosi. Almost all the great clarinet sonatas (e.g. Brahms) and concertos (e.g. Weber) were composed with a particular individual in mind. Then you could make a connection between the instrument (medium), performer, style, and composer to boot!
Good luck
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