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Author: Mike
Date: 2002-12-26 13:23
I am looking for a good orchestral excerpt book. Currently I use the Bonade, but a lot is missing from it. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. I tried finding one online without any success.
Mike~
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Author: John
Date: 2002-12-26 14:16
I just purchased a book by Peter Hadcock called "The Working Clarinetist", Roncorp Publications and distributed by Northeastern Music Publications in Glenmoore, PA. Hadcock played with the Boston Symphony. The selections are good and include long excerpts with very good notes about playing them. The excerpts include most of the major clarinet excerpts, but even with 150 pages of music and commentary, you can't get every single solo ever written. It was a $40 purchase, but well worth it in my opinion.
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Author: Bob Hoit
Date: 2002-12-26 17:49
My suggestion about excerpt books is to not go that route if/when possible.
While the excerpt books are good for learning the basics they leave a lot to be desired. Playing from a full part and learning the full part is always beneficial. You get a better idea of what you have to do in an actual orchestral situation and it is always good to know what you have to do before you play that big solo. And as far as commentary is concerned the best commentary you can get is listening to a bunch of recording of a piece, with different conductors that do things differently, it gives you a very clear idea of what you are expected to be able to do. But this is just my take on it, and i realize that it is not always the easiest thing to do.
But if you have access to your local symphony's library or a local music school, it is certainly worth it to make some photocopies for learning purposes.
good luck and happy new year
bob
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Author: Brad C
Date: 2002-12-26 18:01
The Hadcock book is excellent. There are also good books by Kalman Bloch "The Orchestral Clarinetist" Vol 1-3. International has a whole series of books that have been around forever, but be careful as they contain numerous errors.
I have to agree that there is no substitute for the part itself. All excerpt books have some sort of editing and/or errors. The editing is usually in the name of common performance practices. However, one never knows what a conductor or audition panel is listening for. I therefore like to have the parts for many of the big clarinet works (Daphnes, Firebird, Scheherazade....etc.) . Clarinet parts for works in the public domain are very easy to get by copying from the library or ordering from Kalmus http://www.kalmus-music.com/ or Lucks http://www.lucksmusic.com/.
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Author: Anon
Date: 2002-12-27 13:45
Why excerpts when there are the Rose studies? I'd rather play the Rose studies than Orchestral Excerpts. You must just want the excerpts because you "know" the pieces. The Rose studies will give you the full learning experience. I mean sightreading and all.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-12-27 15:39
Anon -
The Rose studies and excerpt books serve separate purposes. Rose is for general technical competence and musicianship. Excerpts are for learning the important solos, so you *won't* be sight-reading when you come to them, playing in an orchestra or at an audition.
There are excerpts that are asked for on 100% of auditions: Mendelssohn Midsummer Night's Dream Scherzo, Beethoven 6th, Tchaikovsky 6th. For these, every serious auditioner will own and have worked from at least the complete 1st clarinet part (available from, for example, Jeanne) or the complete Kalmus score. You'll be miles behind if you've worked out of only the excerpt books.
There's lots of great music out there, and much if it is even better than what's in the Rose books.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Todd W.
Date: 2002-12-27 19:47
Mike --
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Author: Anon
Date: 2002-12-27 21:22
Where is the proof behind what all of you are saying?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-12-27 21:55
Anon wrote:
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> Where is the proof behind what all of you are
> saying?
Proof of what? That Rose etudes are for technical mastery of the instrument and excerpt books are for learning and playing orchestral excerpts that are used for auditions?
Gimme a break. Have you looked up "etude" and "excerpt" in a dictionary recently?
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Author: Larry Liberson
Date: 2002-12-27 21:58
Proof?
Just common sense, practical knowledge and application, for the most part.
The Rose Etudes are an important -- very important, for many -- component of every clarinetist's education. What is -- or should be -- learned from their study is (hopefully) control and mastery of the instrument. But, as meaningful as they are, they are not the last word. There are plenty more wonderful and productive studies out there that work toward that same goal.
However, the reason for these etudes is preparation for playing the repertoire, not the other way around. Admittedly, there are those who feel that, for instance, some of the Rose 32 can stand alone as a recital piece -- however, they won't do too much for you in an orchestral audition. Perhaps that's why the original poster was asking about excerpt books? For a particular use maybe?
Anyway, if you want the "full learning experience," you ultimately need to be working out of a lot more than Rose!
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Author: Larry Liberson
Date: 2002-12-27 22:04
Oh, BTW, as has already been mentioned, skip the books and go for the complete parts. Not every excerpt book has everything a committee might want to hear.
Also, get your hands on the full score so you can see/hear what is going on around you in the composition. The clarinet parts do not exist in a vacuum, after all. You need to practice the clarinet part; however, you need to learn the entire piece.
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