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Author: jazz_kiwi
Date: 2002-12-22 21:07
Does any 1 no any hting about these claries. Which is best any 1 out there???. Hard rubber clarinets are spose 2 be really good according 2 the guy thats plays 1 in the swedish jazz kings. And hes reallllly good.
Cheers
Andrew
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2002-12-22 21:21
I really don't think the brand of clarinet makes one iota of difference to playing jazz. Of our local jazz players, myself included, there is a wide variety of instruments used. I prefer the Yamaha 457 Oehler system, another guy plays a Wurlitzer Albert, another plays an old R13 prestige, there are a couple of Hammerschmidt both Albert and Oehler and amongst the doublers the Selmer series 9, 10G and centre tone are popular. The Leblanc's also feature. The particular instruments you are talking about are fairly old and you should use some caution as they can be very unreliable.
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Author: jazz_kiwi
Date: 2002-12-22 21:25
yea do you no much about bore size, like big bores are spose 2 give you nice high notes and these were found alot in old hard rubber clarinets
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Author: Fred
Date: 2002-12-22 21:56
Wasn't Silvertone a brand name of Sears and Roebuck? If so, you are, I'm sure, aware of Sears lack of reputation among fine clarinet retailers.
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Author: Benni
Date: 2002-12-23 03:41
I know it's not either of the horns you originally asked about, but Mark mentioned the Selmer Series 9, which I can give you some info on . . .
The bore size is 0.584", it is NOT poly-cylindrical, and the tone holes are straight-cut. The material is wood. Third-space C is very much in tune, but low G/high D is a tad stuffy. I wouldn't say it is any easier or harder to play high notes on than a smaller bore horn, but there is no great difficulty in it, either. Also, many of the altissimo notes are more in tune than on many clarinets.
BTW, if you are concerned about asthetics at all, an old hard rubber clarinet may not be black anymore . . . Hard rubber has a way of turning a sort of greenish color in the sunlight. (We used to joke about our mouthpieces getting "tan lines" from their ligatures in marching band. ;-))
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Author: Vytas
Date: 2002-12-23 21:09
Benny,
Cure for stuffy G/D
Check C/F key opening height for clearance (measured at the highest point) of about 1/3 the diameter of the tone hole. I'm pretty sure that key opening is too low that's why these notes are stuffy.
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Author: Dave
Date: 2002-12-23 23:39
Actually I've heard a few jazz players remark about the Silvertone's suitability to jazz (yes, Sears). Except that I thought they were referring to the wooden models and not the hard rubber ones. I may may be mistaken on that count however. They knew their intonation wasn't spot on but they loved the sound.
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2002-12-25 01:47
Hey Jazz_kiwi,
If you're referring to Kenny Davern, be advised that he plays a VERY open tip, short facing mouthpiece and medium reeds...
in short, he plays a particularly robust front end on his horn.
Control of this sort generates his penetrating, and flexible sound.
That, and 40 years of playing most every night, 6 hours or more.
He plays old hard-rubber Pruefers that you wouldn't cross the street to pick out of the trash and they are NOT STOCK... he adjusts each one by hand, mainly working the toneholes with a file.
The horn is just an implement for him, and he standardized on something durable, resilient and cheap years ago.
He would be the first to say it is not the horn that makes the hero.
I would suggest that the Boosey & Hawkes 1-10 is a surprisingly good horn, and inexpensive.
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