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Author: Vaughn Stroheim
Date: 2002-12-20 06:01
I have a vintage Haynes,(as in the flute maker), silver,double wall Bb clarinet in mint condition. Would anyone know the value of this instrument?
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-12-20 06:59
for the above link: click on Vintage Bb clarinets...GBK
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Author: contragirl
Date: 2002-12-20 09:36
*gasp* Those are super rare! You're lucky! And $10,000 from that page?!?! WOW!
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2002-12-20 11:45
Things are worth what people will ACTUALLY pay...
it seems unlikely that you will generate the sort of foot traffic seen at Roberto's (or any other 48th street) shop.
eBay is a true indicator of actual sale prices, and it fluctuates.
My advice - NEVER sell this little gem, there is nothing like them.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-12-20 14:35
Roberto's price is INSANE. Haynes Bbs come up on eBay once or twice a year and sell for between $1000 and $2000.
I played one at Charlie Ponte's Music Store many years ago. It was built on a Selmer model, probably the RI or BT, and had the typical Selmer tone and playing qualities. It of course had the gorgeous Haynes craftsmanship. However, the keys for the left little finger were quite short, and I wasn't comfortable playing it.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-12-20 17:32
javier -
The Haynes site is at http://www.wmshaynes.com/. They show only flutes, and as far as I know, that's all they make. The clarinets were a one-time experiment in, I think, the 1940s -- from their point of view, a failure. Despite what the Roberto site says, the people who are in a position to know say there were around 1000 clarinets made, including a very small number of Bb/A sets. Search here and in the Klarinet archives for more.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-12-20 17:46
As a point of reference, I listed the Roberto site strictly as an indication of how wildly inflated certain instruments (and mouthpieces) can be marked up.
Unfortunately there are some who are willing to pay those exhorbitatant prices, thus encouraging more of the same from sellers...GBK
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-12-20 19:57
"exorbitant" - from the Latin "to go out of the track (orbit)"
"exhorbitant" - from <i>nowhere</i> / a GBK typo ...GBK
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Author: Douglas
Date: 2002-12-21 01:11
Just to add a bit of information about the Haynes silver double walled clarinets, I had at one point a Basset clarinet in F of this type made by Haynes.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-12-21 02:27
Douglas wrote:
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> Just to add a bit of information about the Haynes silver
> double walled clarinets, I had at one point a Basset clarinet
> in F of this type made by Haynes.
Basset clarinet in F or Basset horn? They're different animals, and a basset clarinet in F would be a rare animal in any case.
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Author: jazz_kiwi
Date: 2002-12-22 20:54
ooooooo ahhhhhhhhh i got a "easy play" clarinet. American it says. Metal clarinets i have 2 say rule. They play low and high notes beautfully but the middle ranges are a bit weak. Does any 1 no much about hard rubber clarinets??
Andrew
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-12-23 11:22
jazz_kiwi
The material it is made of does not affect how it plays. It is the design of the instrument and that varies from manufacturer to manufacturer.
If the middle range is weak, you may have a minute leak somewhere.
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Author: jazz_kiwi
Date: 2002-12-23 22:46
yea iv repaded some keys and i think they just need breaking in. I tryed a jody jazz mouthpiece on it and wow it makes it so much easyer 2 play
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2002-12-26 02:07
It is funny, I have never seen an estimate of how many Buffet metal clarinets were made, Selmers, etc. Only Haynes. If I had to guess, Buffet made fewer. Bettoney probably made a few thousand of the Silva Bet model -- the serial numbers run up to around 5000. I am guessing that White made at least that many Silver kings. Those are the two most common pro models on eBay. Bottom line: pro metal clarinets were not that plentiful. Yet, some can be had on eBay for $200. Considering how well they play compared to a new $500 clarinet, they are not particularly expensive. Of course, you might get the one that can't be restored or plays poorly.
Haynes must have released one or more counts over the years. The most common numbers run between 300 and 400. Apparently Haynes still has records of the original purchasers. However, they don't seem to want to spend any time going through those files.
The most recent Haynes on eBay was an Eb that was bid to $2500 or so. The seller, however, put a high reserve and answered no email. (A few other bidders confirmed this.) Probably the seller was just looking to find out the value.
The lowest price on eBay for a Haynes has been about $1400. That one, however, needed a lot of repair, including replacement of the thumbrest. Some have changed hands for around $2500. That may be the ballpark. Fully restored, original case, playing good ... probably more.
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