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Author: jez
Date: 2002-12-16 16:53
I've been using Yamaha mp patches, the clear, slightly soft-feeling ones, and like the feel of them, but when the room is warm and I've a lot of blowing to do I find the adhesive becomes soft and the patch tends to slip upwards. Can anyone recommend a similar product or suggest a way of securing them more firmly?
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2002-12-16 17:29
jez,
I prefer the BG clear thin pads, available from Muncy Music and elsewhere, and I also like the Bay patches. To keep them from slipping or lifting prematurely off the beak, I find it helps to wipe the beak surface with acetone (nail polish remover) --- just a quick swipe, wipe off immediately to prep the surface for the patch adhesive. Also, a slight roughening of the surface with extra-fine sandpaper or steel wool helps.
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Author: Mark S.
Date: 2002-12-16 21:00
Thumbtack. :-)
I make my own out of rubber chemical-handling gloves and 3M double-sided tape. That way I have the flexibility of cutting them to size for different makes of mouthpiece, not to mention the spread from Eb to Bass and (gasp) saxophone. I can make a zillion of them for about $6 worth of raw material. You can probably buy the rubber in sheets too and make enough to outfit 100 clarinet choirs, but my corner Ace Hardware is convenient. I wear through the rubber of the patch before the adhesive gives out (months). A little elbow grease and a sturdy finger nail gets the tape off so I can slap another one on. Adheres fine without any chemicals or scruffing.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-12-16 21:16
100 clarinet choirs - now THAT's an imposing thought
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2002-12-16 22:06
If it happens in the Cayman Islands, a sign of the apocalypso...
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2002-12-17 00:10
My J&D Hite came with a patch. My Fobes did not. I bought a pack of patches at the local music store. I don't recall the brand. I don't recall what I did with them, either. Dang. Hate when that happens. * I decided to use yellow electrical tape as a temporary solution. It has held up for a couple weeks, but I have not played much.
* FYI, the best way to find something small is to buy several more of the item and leave them around the house. This supersaturates the solution and then all the missing items precipate out. After that, you will always be stumbling over one.
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Author: ed
Date: 2002-12-17 00:41
I have used the regular Bay patches for many years. I find that they last forever and stay put. Sometimes if I am want to be extra sure, I wash the mouthpiece and they give a quick swipe with alcohol. They never move on me and even on the chance I take one off of a mouthpiece and put it on another, they stay.
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Author: Fred
Date: 2002-12-17 01:34
FWIW, I was advised to warm up the patch before applying it to the mouthpiece - presumably to get the adhesive tackier before application. I used a hair dryer; it worked fine. Of course, it may have worked fine without the heating as well . . .
On a side note (Ab), I reacted negatively to my sound the first time I played with a patch. I presume the vibration that had become part of my perception of my tone was muted by the patch; others didn't seem to notice.
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2002-12-17 04:18
I used to use those thick black ones, and put it quite high on the mpc, as my teeth sit pretty much right on the tip, almost to the point of slipping over sometimes! My teacher informed me that it could possibly have some effect on the sound. I then changed to the smaller clear ones. It had a huge effect on my sound - it became much clearer and easier.
Just something to think about.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-12-17 11:45
Morrigan wrote:
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> I then changed to the smaller clear ones. It had a huge
> effect on my sound - it became much clearer and easier.
The chances are that your <b>perception</b> of your own sound changed due to increased bone conduction, but the listener may not have noticed anything.
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Author: Morrigan
Date: 2002-12-17 11:57
Yup, and it's exactly what I was saying in another thread about visualising your sound - I feel very strongly that sound production is a mental process and not a product of your equipment.
Although my teacher did tell me there were subtle differences. No mind-blowing changes though, LOL.
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Author: Heidi
Date: 2002-12-17 20:04
I really like the Bay patches. They seem to do the job and don't wear out for a long time and I play ALOT!
Just my 2 cents worth,
Heidi
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Author: elmo lewis
Date: 2002-12-18 23:39
Black electrician's tape. I use 2 layers. It'll last about a year or so. I'm still using the roll I bought in 1975. Great for household repairs too.
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Author: Karl
Date: 2002-12-20 01:29
The reason your mp patch is slipping off is due to the leaking saliva which is caused by weak lip muscles. I've had the same rubber patch on my clarinet for three years.
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Author: Iceland clarinet
Date: 2008-10-08 13:25
Well I had the same experience. When I had been playing for some time the clue of the Yamaha patch went all over the place and even came of the ends and finally after 3 weeks of use it was just loose so I have to use another one. But I admit that I do like the feel of it(the 0.5mm one)
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Author: cigleris
Date: 2008-10-08 14:41
I prefer the thick black BG ones, they last for well over a year will all the playing they get. I've never gone through any of them.
Peter Cigleris
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Author: clarionman
Date: 2008-10-08 19:32
I use the 3M mouthpiece patch. I put the thick black patch first then the thin clear and they last for a very long time.
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Author: claribari
Date: 2008-10-11 17:36
I use Vandoren thick (black) mp patches. They come in thin (clear) as well. I have only had them for a couple of months, but they seem to be working very well. I bought a pack of five and put one on each of my four clarinets (2 B-flat, and 2 E-flat Soprano), and also one on my bari sax. I didn't even need to trim them at all.
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Author: marshall
Date: 2008-10-13 16:52
The Vandoren clear patches feel almost identical to the Yamaha ones but the adhesive isn't affected by heat (at least...not the kind generated by a human body).
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