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 tounging
Author: Dawn 
Date:   2002-11-15 01:36

my touging seems to be very obvious when i play. How can i make it not so noticable. for example, in my all co audition piece i have to go from a High C to the next G down (still high) and i have to tongue the G and it sounds absolutely horible,like there is a break in the music. thanks
~~DAWN~~

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 RE: tounging
Author: bob49t 
Date:   2002-11-15 07:01

Tonguing,

Interesting post as I have a friend whose tonguing is also very obvious.

What she's doing is using the tongue plus a "glottal stop" This is the complete interruption of the air to the mouth eg, when you say EEEEE ! EEEE ! EEEE! repeatedly. This is actually a total stoppage of the airflow from the lungs by the closing of the throat. This of course amplifies the sound of "tonguing" and is horrendous in a pp passage, and important to stamp out, if fast tonguing is required.
She finds fast tonguing or staccatto difficult as there's just too much going on inside her throat for good coordination.

I have heard this in a few beginners, and suspect it's something that teachers come across quite often. But how to train someone out of this ??
I'd be very interested in the experiences of teachers regarding this subject. There may be a thread on exactly this topic.

Dawn, I'm not suggesting this is your malady, but next time you play, try an objective evaluation of whether there is a "throat element" to your tonguing. This could eliminate a basic fault and release you to higher things !

There are other elements of course such as m/p- reed combos, warped m/p needing refaced,using too strong reeds, embouchure, but I'll leave that to the experts on the BB.

Good luck for your audition.

BobT

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 RE: tounging
Author: Ed 
Date:   2002-11-15 15:20

Try very slow repeated tones (mm at 40 for the quarter). Try to play with as little tongue motion as possible and with a very light attack. A very solid air stream is very important. Have as little break and disturbance to the sound as possible. Get it to where it is barely audible, no bumps. It may take time. Later, when comfortable, do the same but changing pitches (scales, chords, etc). Remember that the distance between the notes will be the same no matter what the note value, only the length of the note is different. At this tempo, every detail is magnified, where at a faster tempo a lot gets hidden. Be very patient. Good luck.

Ed

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