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Author: sinkdraiN
Date: 2002-11-13 20:54
I just purchased a used Leblanc LL clarinet made in 1976 with all the extra keys for a pretty low price. Could you please give me any comments positive or negative about this clarinet? It will arrive next week.
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Author: Ralph G
Date: 2002-11-13 21:16
Bought a used LL in A back in August that was manufactured around the same time (standard Boehm, no extra keys). I love it. It has a very mellow and focused sound, but it makes you put an honest day's work into it to get it (though this may be characteristic more of the A clarinet in general than the LL).
Though this is probably just something on my horn, check the lower joint chromatic B/F# banana key. The pad on mine barely covers the tone hole; the key arm barely has enough reach to get the job done. The cutout portion of the hole extends quite a bit lower than the pad. I've been noticing my sound fuzzes up a little bit when I use it. I think the key placement means it has less than normal clearance to open the hole when that key is pressed. I'll run mine in to a technician after my orchestra plays its concert this weekend.
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Author: Jean
Date: 2002-11-13 23:33
I have an A Leblanc with the articulated c#/g# key....and yes it does make me work. But I am very happy with the instrument. Hope you are too.
Jean
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Author: sinkdraiN
Date: 2002-11-14 02:31
What is an articulated C#/G# key? Do you have to use it or can you avoid it if you dont want to use it?
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Author: Jean
Date: 2002-11-14 02:56
It is an additional fork(ed) key above the b/f# key. There is a hole that needs to be lined up between the two joints on my LeBlanc.
You can use either fingering for g#/c#.
Jean
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-11-14 03:33
This has been discussed at length in threads retrievable by Searching the Phorum by "Full Boehm", "Dynamic", "Pete Fountain" terms. It is additional keywork to provide a better [and trillable]C#/G#. Does your LL also have a [7th] ring for the Left ring finger?, to provide a "fork fingering" for Eb/Bb . Don
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Author: d dow
Date: 2002-11-14 12:44
I have found this mechanism somewhat of a source of trouble on one of my older Leblanc clarinets in that the adjustment has to be perfect or it is no "go". It also changes some standrd altissimo fingerings, so make sure you get a fingering chart for it.......
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Author: Robert Small
Date: 2002-11-14 18:31
I have a LL with full Boehm keywork (except for the low Eb) and I have never had any problems with the extra mechanisms. The G#/C# pad will occasionally stick shut if the instrument has sitting in the case for a couple of days but it only takes one second to unstick it and then it's fine. I know it changes some altissimo fingerings but I haven't encountered any problems. If anyone wants to see how handy the articulated G#/C# can be (and also the left hand Bb/Eb key), try playing the 1st movement (preludio) of Bach's Partita in E major for solo violin.
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Author: John Elison
Date: 2002-11-14 19:18
I just bought a Leblanc model 1187 LL with articulated G# and forked Bb on eBay last month. I had been playing a Pete Fountain model (1610?) with silver keys, so I was used to the extra keys and I didn’t want to be without them. However, I would like to know what fingerings for what notes these extra keys exclude.
Thanks for your assistance.
Best regards,
John Elison
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-11-14 20:12
The articulated G# key excludes what is called the "long F" fingering for the altissimo F. This is the first three fingers of BOTH the right and left hand plus the G#/C# key.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-11-14 20:52
TKS, Dee, I had often wondered, and have never had problems, just using the simpler fingerings, I guess. Prob should look at charts where the artic. is employed along with rt hand 1,2 or 3 for conflicts! I learned the benefits/drawbacks of the F B 4-additions early, and have had few problems, and still use extras as needed, usually playing 17/6 's, tho. Don
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