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 Rudall clarinet on Ebay
Author: ted 
Date:   1999-08-24 19:33

I've noticed a Rudall rosewood clarinet on Ebay, and was wondering if anyone out there had info on it. It's listed as circa 1854. Was the 17 key, 6 ring clarinet around back then? What about the pitch? It's mode in London, and I wonder if it's high-pitched.

Mark, I was hoping that wonderful book of yours had info on this manufacturer.

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 RE: Rudall clarinet on Ebay
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   1999-08-24 22:18

Need more info - George Rudall, Rudall & Rose, Rudall Rose Carte & Co., or Rudall Carte & Co. ?

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 RE: Rudall clarinet on Ebay
Author: ted 
Date:   1999-08-25 00:27

Rudall, Rose, Carte' and Co.
Thanks ...

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 RE: Rudall clarinet on Ebay
Author: Dee 
Date:   1999-08-25 01:00



ted wrote:
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I've noticed a Rudall rosewood clarinet on Ebay, and was wondering if anyone out there had info on it. It's listed as circa 1854. Was the 17 key, 6 ring clarinet around back then? What about the pitch? It's mode in London, and I wonder if it's high-pitched.

Mark, I was hoping that wonderful book of yours had info on this manufacturer.

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It could be almost any pitch. There were several popular pitches around the world at the time not just the ones we today refer to as high pitch and low pitch.

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 RE: Rudall clarinet on Ebay
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   1999-08-25 01:15

Rudall Rose Carte & Co. London 1852-1871
1852 est. as successors to Rudall & Rose, on Carte becoming a partner; 1855/56 took over 'Key & Co.' as 'Key, Rudall & Co.', becoming sole agents for A. Sax woodwinds. 1856, on Rudall's retirement, Carte became proprietor. Under Carte's management the firm changed 'from a flute manufactory into an important military music establishment' (Rockstro)
Address:
1852-54: 100 New Bond St.
1854-57: "" "" "" and 20 Charing Cross
1858-71: 20 Charing Cross

Based upon the above information (the Rudall & Rose company, predecessors to Rudall Rose Carte & Co., had the patent rights to the Boehm's flute system in 1847 ) were, as far as I can see, pretty much exclusively creating flutes until at least 1856 (when Carte became manager), making the c.1854 date suspect. I would make an educated guess at late 1850s, after Carte had management for a couple of years and the requisite skilled labor could be found.

But ... I could be wrong!



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 RE: Rudall clarinet on Ebay
Author: ted 
Date:   1999-08-25 01:28

Thanks. I guess if I bid and win, I'd only fix it up as a hobby (to play alone), but not to play in an ensemble. I just like the looks of the rosewood.

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