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Author: Greg Taylor
Date: 2002-10-20 20:09
I have been contacted by a collector regarding my Conn Double Walled Eb Soprano Clarinet. It is an old Albert system. Serial # 805. The serial number tells me it was made in the first year of Conn's woodwind efforts (around 1895). It is in the orginal case.
Does anyone have any idea where I should go to obtain the value of this instrument?
Thanks in advance for any help you may offer.
Greg Taylor
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Author: Bob
Date: 2002-10-20 21:20
Putting it on eBay with a high Reserve is one way
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-10-20 21:52
You might ask for opinion from the Shrine to Music Museum, U of South Dakota, they are quite knowledgeable re: Conn insts. Don
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-10-20 22:06
http://www.usd.edu/~mbanks/CONTENT.html is the most complete history of Conn that I know about online.
The National Music Museum (used to be the Shrine to Music Museum) is less accessible than is used to be for simple queries; and in fact has set limitations on performing public domain music from its archives:
"Music no longer covered by U.S. copyright laws may be copied and used for performance by qualified individuals or organizations on a non-profit basis."
I find this abhorrent in a publically funded museum ...
I also know that at least one set of historically important instruments will not be going to the Museum because of the limitations on who can perform research and the fee structure of the museum.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-10-20 22:38
The Henry Ford Museum has some old catalogs available; see http://www.hfmgv.org/research/catalog.asp?new+-access+top.hfm for a partial index of their holdings (Carl Fisher catalog from 1896, small Selmer foldout from 1925, Musical instruments at the World's Columbian Exposition 1893, Hipkin's Musical instruments: historic, rare and unique editions of 1888 and 1921, The Practical acoustics of early woodwinds /by Herbert Wendell Myers - doctoral dissertation - 1981) and more.
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Author: Mark P.
Date: 2002-10-21 01:53
I remember seeing a couple of these on eBay a couple years ago. As I recall, they were B flat Albert Double wall clarinets and one may have been a high pitch. I'm thinking they sold in the $650-750 apiece range. Regular single wall metal E flat clarinets were regularly hitting $300 at that time. Certainly an unusual clarinet.
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Author: Cheryl
Date: 2002-10-23 07:51
I found a clarinet the has Artist Pen-zel-Mueller U.S.A. in a triangle at the bottom in perfect condition I was wondering if it was worth anything it is in excellent condition and it has a K-867 on the side I found a picture of it in Instrument made by Penzel-Mueller and then went to New Orleans Instruments made by Penzel-Mueller when I Put Instrument Made by Penzel-Mueller on the Internet There is a black and white picture of the exact one I have with this man playing If you can tell me anything I would really appreciate it. Thank-you Cheryl
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Author: Rico
Date: 2002-10-24 20:21
I believe P-M made a rubber clarinet at one time around WWII or maybe earlier. I think the P-M factory was in New York. The tone was what people were interested in but, unlike wood, the old rubber compound tended to deteriorate over time, although that depends on a lot of factors... Can you tell if yours is wood or rubber? I had a wooden Penzel Mueller years ago and it sounded great - not on a par with Buffet, but not far below.
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Author: Klarnetisto
Date: 2010-11-08 23:01
One just like that sold on eBay on 9 September for $343.98. The auction was quite lively: 24 bids! I was among the bidders, but didn't let myself get too carried away since it's a High Pitch clarinet.
Here's the item number if you want to look it up:
170536261415
Klarnetisto
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Author: jasperbay
Date: 2010-11-09 00:38
Price, or value, of such a rare beastie is still a matter of supply vs. demand. Supply of this particular model is near 0 ( I've never seen a double-walled Eb Albert Conn for sale!). Demand could only be accurately measured in a large - open- market. E-bay is the only place I know of that would have a large pool of potential buyers.
I would list it with a $500 opening bid, and not be surprised if it sells for more, largely depending on condition, and the quality of your photographs!!. Listing fees have been mostly waived on E-bay, so it doesn't cost you anything to list'.
Clark G. Sherwood
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Author: GBK
Date: 2010-11-09 02:29
[ To all who those recently responded:
Please note that this thread originated in 2002 - GBK ]
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