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 Flip or Slide?
Author: Lori 
Date:   2002-10-08 13:11

Fingering question:

In a piece I'm working on, there is a run of chromatic sixteenth notes repeated very quickly over and over and over starting on top line Gb: Gb F E Eb Gb F E Eb etc. Sliding from Eb to the chromatic fingering for Gb is nearly impossible and the alternative which is to play Gb with the lh middle finger and then flip to F is difficult to do cleanly at speed. Do I just pick the lessor of 2 evils here (flip) or is there some other way around this?

Thanks for your help...

Lori

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 RE: Flip or Slide?
Author: William 
Date:   2002-10-08 13:41

Lori,

My suggestion is to finger the Gb (F#) with the middle r-h tone hole and flip to the F. It is awkward, but really the only way to do it and, with a little slow practice, not as difficult as it may seem now. It may be of interest for you to do a search for Marellus and read his theroy on use of alternative chromatic fingerings. Good luck!!!!!

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 RE: Flip or Slide?
Author: Curt at MusicMedic 
Date:   2002-10-08 15:43

It once got in a similar bind on a gig. I used the 1st finger RH to close the F# pad (above the first tone hole), then all the other fingers just played up one tone hole. -Intonation? No comment.
Something like that. But there must not have been an Eb involved because one would run out of fingers.
I wonder if anyone else has a strange fingering idea like that.

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 RE: Flip or Slide?
Author: Dee 
Date:   2002-10-08 16:27

For me the slide works better. But as in the other option you must practice slowly until it is smooth and then speed it up.

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 RE: Flip or Slide?
Author: Ken Shaw 
Date:   2002-10-08 16:55

Watch a bassoonist's fingers sometime. They flip and slide much more than you do. A violinist has only four fingers for all the notes. They flip and slide for a living.

Do whichever works best for you. I don't think there's a lot to choose. Neither is easy, but neither is impossible.

Best regards.

Ken Shaw

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 RE: Flip or Slide?
Author: Meri 
Date:   2002-10-08 18:11

...or transpose that section, and play it on a C or an A clarinet! :-)

Meri

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 RE: Flip or Slide?
Author: Ken 
Date:   2002-10-09 22:33

I wouldn't recommend playing the passage on any other "different instrument" besides the Bb. Doing so, will only alter color, section blend, interpretation and possible intention of the composer. Depending on what you're most comfortable with start on forked Gb/F# and apply standard fingerings; at a fast clip, you'll just have to struggle along with it. Sliding and being accurate consistently is asking for trouble (if you're anything like the rest of us). v/r KEN

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