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Author: Keri
Date: 2002-09-23 02:20
Has anyone ever seen or used a 14 key E flat clarinet? If so, where could I find a fingering chart and information on it? Thanks!!!
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Author: Willie
Date: 2002-09-23 02:45
Sounds, by description, you're looking at one of those plastic remakes on eBay. If so, save your money unless you want it for a wall hanger or a laucher for bottle rockets on the 4th. If you've found a "real" one, try the fingering charts on sneezy here. This will give you the basics for an Albert.
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Author: nzdonald
Date: 2002-09-23 10:13
by "plastic remake" i think Willie is refering to a KinderKlari- which is a plastic e flat clarinet with some keys missing to keep the price down- in all other respects this is a "Boehm system" clarinet with what we'd call normal fingerings.
is you're talking about an old wooden Albert/German system clarinet, and it's in playable condition, then both the Albert and the "modern German" fingering charts will work for you. I have an old Albert E flat clarinet, and love playing it- it has a great tone, especially when i use it with the original mouthpiece. Unfortunately it is in high pitch so plays "in E" not E flat, and even in E it's not well in tune.
have fun
donald
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-09-23 16:04
I suspect rather that Willie is referring to one of the Indian instruments sold through eBay for not much money. They appear to be intended copies of an early-twentieth-century Boosey instrument, but Booseys from 'way back then may still work. I have yet to see one of the Indian instruments that worked well at all. YMMV. One makes a lovely table lamp, however.
On the other hand, I have a 14-key Jerome Thibouville-Lamy Eb Clarinet which has been on the bench for a few months, and I hope it will play well when restored -- if ever it's finished. And it is Low Pitch, A=440.
The fingering of the Indian instrument is Albert-style (as is my JT-L), and if you have one in actual working condition, you may use the fingering chart on this website. Alternatively, buy a Rubank elementary Clarinet book. It includes a usable, separate, large fingering chart for both Boehm and Albert instruments.
Regards,
John
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-09-25 03:58
John are these Indian instruments good for attracting cobras?
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Author: nzdonald
Date: 2002-09-25 20:40
i wonder if the "Indian" company that makes clarinets are the same place that make Harps (the strings come wound incorrectly and the harp falls to pieces within a week....) what is sad is that both India and China could easily produce good musical instruments (and probably already do- i've heard of a good quality Chinese clarinet being produced, though not seen it yet)... while these countries seem to churn out rubbish, when they decide to seriously challenge the western makers it'll probably only take 10 years to win the student/intermediate market (the proff market would be another kettle of fish altogether....).
must rush
donald
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-09-25 23:07
Seems to me, NZDonald, that anybody *could* turn out a good musical instrumet if they do their homework and are conscientious about it. There's no lack of very intelligent people worldwide. When those highly intelligent people are channeled into a highly competetive race (most money from the cheapest mass produced product), it becomes a very different story. Then it seems to be a question of, "How many corners can we cut and still have tons of something we can sell fast and cheap that looks and feels like an 'X-y-z' "?
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