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Author: kenabbott
Date: 2002-09-11 13:05
Does anyone know what the production dates were for the CT, BT, 9 and 10?
(Please no comments about my social life. I broke up with a Selmer some months ago and am still heartbroken.)
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2002-09-12 00:30
Ken,
I really don't know the exact dates....perhaps we could get the information from Ralph Morgan. Someone posted a long time ago he was working on a project putting down his Selmer memoirs, but I haven't heard about it since. The BT's and RI's started out with an "L" serial number prefix. The early CT's started with an "N" serial number prefix, but not all "N" serial number prefixes are CT's. I've seen CT's up to and including "R" serial number prefixes, but if my memory serves correctly there is an overlap here with the early Series 9 also. Now, you can look these "prefix" years up on the equipement serial number list, but the BT's started in about '33 and ended with the "M" serial number prefix. The early CT's started with the "N", putting them in the early 50's, the 9's came in the real late 50's I believe. There may be some exceptions that other know about. I really don't know about the 10....never was interested in that model.
jbutler
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Author: Douglas
Date: 2002-09-12 01:25
This is a great question that I hope will be answered with real accuracy. To start with we should put the models in cronological order: first, no model indicated, then BT, RI, CT, 9, 9*, 10, 10G, and on the the present. The only other help I can give is that I have a Selmer catalog from 1934 and the top model of clarinet was "Model No. 15", Radio Improved (RI). The second level of instruments were (surprise) Bundys, but were made in the factory in France, and the third level was Barbier. By the way, the top sax model then was also the Radio Improved "Super-Sax", Model No. 52 for Alto.
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Author: javier garcia
Date: 2002-09-13 13:18
The french Selmer web site has a list for their instrument's development, more saxs than clarinets. Unfortunately only in French:
http://www.selmer.fr/html/french/historique/instrum/index.htm
(sorry I don't know how to make the direct link)
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Author: javier garcia
Date: 2002-09-13 13:24
also for models and serials numbers of their saxophones:
http://www.selmer.fr/html/french/sax/saxs/serie/index.htm
not still available for their clarinets.
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Author: kenabbott
Date: 2002-09-13 17:45
I think I found most of what I wanted at the site Javier found. There is an English version at
http://www.selmer.fr/html/english/historique/histo/index.htm
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-09-13 18:14
Re: Jim S's question. I found, and bought, a '54 Sel-Paris P95xx CT[in our local music store] which plays quite a bit better than my P25xx, and my [previous] P22xx [unmarked, believed CT], and well in tune with a friend's S-P 10 . I seem to have a "thing" about Sel s, have a F B RI, fair, and an OLD "no-ser-#" F B, still OK!! I like my Sel bass and alto too. I checked-out and sold [for a good buddy] a 1939? G M Bundy wood, a reasonably good one!! Don
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Author: javier garcia
Date: 2002-09-14 12:17
See also:
http://www.selmer.com/woodwind/parissx/historical.html
for saxophones serial numbers
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Author: Ralph
Date: 2002-09-14 19:14
Based on Series 9 serial numbers I have seen on e-bay, Series 9 production has ranged from 1959 (a Q serial number) to 1976 (a Y seial number). The 9* production has ranged from 1960 (a S serial number) to 1978 (a Z serial number). According to Selmer brochures, the BT was produced in the 1940s, the CT was produced in the 1950s, the Series 9 was produced in the 1960s and the Series 10 was introduced in 1971.
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2002-09-14 20:57
Ralph,
Thanks for the information on the late CT's overlapping the 9's with the Q series. I've not seen a Q series 9, but do not doubt you. However, I do own and have worked on BT's from the early 30's. My own BT Bb was made in 1934 and the A in 1937 or 38.
jbutler
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