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Author: madvax
Date: 2002-09-09 16:08
Jim S. wrote:
> Look at what they will pay for a Buffet Albert
I suspect it was the Bettoney mouthpiece that brought the big bucks.
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-09-09 16:12
With its length of 24½ inches, it's likely a C-pitch instrument. This jacks up the price somewhat. But whether it is high pitch or low pitch is a gamble. Looks nice anyway, but hardly *that* nice.
Regards,
John
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Author: Douglas
Date: 2002-09-09 21:12
Look at the feedback for the buyer....6 positives and 4 negatives, leaving a feedback of 2. The seller may never get his money.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-09-09 21:33
I have a very similar Buffet, with a couple of additional keys, but I've never though it was worth as much as $200, let alone $860.
I agree with madvax that most of the bidding was for the mouthpiece, which looks in decent condition and may have been made from a medium-quality Chedeville blank. I have a couple of these mouthpieces, but they're worn out and barely playable.
John - A C clarinet has a much shorter barrel. It's almost undoubtedly a high-pitch Bb.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-09-09 22:21
Looks like another last minute bidding frenzy where people lose all sense of true value. Unfortunately, there's no buyer's remorse option to back out of these 'deals' :|
Maybe I'm wrong. At least the final bid used to be final and binding. Didn't eBay recently add a way out? If so, there's probably a penalty clause.
Boyohboyohboy, if my wife ever discovered I'd spent $860 for a mouthpiece, with a horn attached, I KNOW there'd be a whole lotta remorse :
If I discovered I'd unwittingly bought a high pitch C horn for $860 I'd just as well shoot myself.
What happens when a mouthpiece wears out? Do the rails or facing wear down over time? The only mouthpiece I've come across that's 'worn out', totally unplayable, looks like somebody took a pipe wrench to it. Although it's not broken, it is dead. I keep it for display as an example of "How not to treat your equipment."
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-09-10 01:29
Ken, this thing is an inch and seven-sixteenths shorter than the shortest LP B-flat Clarinet I ever measured (A. Fontaine/Couesnon). I would expect no Bb HP Clarinet to be as short as this one, especially as it's an "Albert"-style instrument (many have large bore and are longer). On the other hand, I absolutely have not seen 'em all, so perhaps you're right.
To consider a possible horror story, some of the old C clarinets had smaller mouthpieces than Bb instruments. How grim it could be to pay dearly for a beloved MP only to find it's a teeny one made only for a C-pitch instrument.
Regards,
John
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Author: John Kelly - Australia
Date: 2002-09-10 06:59
I'm amazed that anyone would buy from e-bay really, given the replies to the original post.
I guess I'm lucky I play a Buffet Albert of ~1911 vintage so I'm told. It's great, it's in tune, and it's low pitch and it cost me A$1000, and considering the US-Aust rate of exchange is around .55, that means mine [in great nick too!] is a bargain.
Just by the way, I did not get a m/p with mine as I already have 5JB and didn't need the one it came with.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-09-11 01:05
Looks like a pretty crappy horn to me - but who knows, it might very well have a golden tone.
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Author: Dim
Date: 2002-10-19 15:42
Well.......... I know the guy who bought it. He has taken delivery of it, and the clarinet is "absolutely fantastic" as he said.
He had inquired before bidding. It is a Bb LP, as length was 24-1/2" without the mpc.
As a matter of fact, he bought it for his teacher who is very keen on Cundies-Buffet of course-.
I thought he paid much - there is always a high risk factor buying at eBay -, but he could easily get $ 2,000 if it were for resale.
The Bettoney mpc was of no importance.
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