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Author: David Dow
Date: 2002-08-28 17:18
Thanks for the pics Mark, I have a buddy who was one of Abe's students_Richard Thomson who studied with him back in 71 or so. I use his method for all my beginners and reccommend it alot to other educators out there.
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-08-28 18:57
Wow...these are great pictures!!! Thanks so much, Mark. Is there any site to find out more info on some of the more unusual fingering systems? I'm particularly enthralled by the "Systema Romero."
Ahhh....to have more time and money. And space in which to store more clarinets!
Katrina
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-08-28 20:14
Oh, yes... wow, and how! What a treat!
Thank you, Mark.
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Kat, the 'Romero' looks to me like a forerunner of the McIntyre. McIntyres show up sporadically on eBay.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-08-28 21:27
The Romero is one of the few in existence in the world, and was (is) in excellent playable condition - I tootled on it for a bit. A mechanical marvel! It was one of the few instruments not sold off; Abe has given it away to a relative.
A history of the Romero is in The Clarinet; I haven't added those issues to the Master Index yet, so hopefully someone else can help you with the date/issue (my Clarinet mags are still wrapped up in my basement).
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-08-28 23:25
Mark - I particularly like the "Tony Bingham mongrel" clarinet. In Australian parlayance - a mongrel is:
a) a not very nice term to describe someone that annoys you a lot; and
b) a dog or bitch of indeterminate breed, usually mixed breed
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Author: Bob
Date: 2002-08-28 23:27
Wow! what amazing photos and collection. Thanks, Mark
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Author: kes
Date: 2002-08-28 23:34
Really neat! The older clarinets are so interesting. It seems as if people put a lot more work and personal detail into clarinets back then, without all the machines of today. I especially love the clarinets made of unstained wood. They look a bit odd at first, but then you realize how georgeous it is! The ebony and ivory one seems really cool too. Thanks for putting up the pics!
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-08-28 23:46
diz wrote:
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(b) fits. It's a clarinet made up of various old pieces, none of which belongs to the other. Mongrel was used purposely.
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Author: Willie
Date: 2002-08-29 00:05
Looking at the Romero, I think I see what inspired the McIntire clarinet.
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2002-08-29 01:14
I assume on the Romero that all the small pads at the top are a complicated register system designed to move the register node up and down with various fingerings to try and achieve perfect intonation via correct accoustic positioning. Like the dual register system on bass clarinets and saxophones. I have seen two attempts at this sort of thing by Adolphe Sax. I cornet with 6 valves and seven bells so that no fingering combinations at all are used just open and one of the six valves with seven independent bells. A bit heavy to hold up beedless to say. Their is also a valve trombone in existence with six valves but only one bell again an attempt at accoustic correctness. The level of experimentation and sheer imagination of 19th century and early 20th century makers amazes me. Look at the Octavin, an attempt to make a clarinet that overblows at the octave, the Rothphone, a double reed saxophone, the Tubax, a double curled bass or contrabass sax that makes it compact.
We have lost all of this imagination. We just play with computers and their warped reality. These guys were geniuses or Genii.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-08-29 01:39
The Romero had one <b>major</b> human engineering drawback - the thing weighs a ton!
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-08-29 14:21
Bravo Mark! Bravo Abe!
As several referrer sites say, this is one of the biggest, best and most professionally run sites on the Web. It just got better.
Ken Shaw
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Author: David Dow
Date: 2002-08-30 04:02
Amazing pics really, I am amzaed at the beauty of these insturment.
I had no idea Abe had all this!! Thanks again and very enjoyable.
David Dow
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Author: David Dow
Date: 2002-08-30 04:04
Amazing pics really, the beauty of this workmanship is a wonder to behold. again thanks to Abe and Mark!
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