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Author: Simone
Date: 2002-08-27 21:01
How do you play the note which is 1/4 higher than third space C#?
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-08-27 22:48
Playing a quarter tone on a wind instrument is the same (almost) regardless of where (in the clarinet's range) the note lies.
Two ways of doing this:
1) by embouchure adjustment; and
2) by cross-fingerings.
The results are the same - eeeiiikkk. However, if you play contemporary music then a working knowledge of quarter tones and even third tones is almost a prerequisite.
I've not yet seen a fingering chart that specialises in quarter tones (etc) but I'm sure there is one out there.
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-08-28 00:29
As far as folk music goes, the Greeks use the fingering of the note 1/2 step higher and lip it down. Not sure what the Turkish players do, cause I've never had a lesson with any of them. It's really tough at any rate, because you have to adjust your hearing for that kind of intonation.
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Author: Arnold the basset hornist
Date: 2002-08-28 05:34
Hello,
the instruction on the oehler quarter tone fingering chart on <a href=http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/>The Woodwind Fingering Guide</a> should work on boehm system clarinets, too:
<i>"Balance F/C key to match quarter tone."</i>
You'll have to practice for it a lot, unfortunately.
Arnold (the basset hornist)
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-08-28 06:46
Hey Arnold - long time no see (as it were). That's an interesting resource and I'll look at it in detail later, thanks.
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Author: Arnold the basset hornist
Date: 2002-08-28 11:55
Well,
most questions could be answered by other people, even the string ligature is at the visitor upload section (thanks to Mark); so I'm more reading theese pages than posting here, nevertheless I'm quite busy in my job.
Arnold (the basset hornist)
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-08-28 15:49
I'm pretty sure that Philip Rehfeld's New Directions for Clarinet has a quarter-tone fingering chart. If not, Gary van Cott stocks several new-music instruction books.
For the quarter-tone between third-space C# and fourth-line D, there's no way to put down the lower keys to shade it to pitch.
Several things seem possible, all of which take time to get ready to play.
You could whittle down a wooden matchstick (or fold a matchbook cover) to wedge under the low E key, so that it can go only halfway down.
You could take the center tube from a roll of paper towels, cut it and taper it, and wrap some stick-on rubber on the outside so it will hold in the bell.
You could put some adhesive tape over half of the F#/C# hole.
You could take an extra pad, the same size as for the F#/C# hold and wedge it lightly under the F#/C# pad (perhaps putting on a layer of duct tape for durability and to find the proper thickness.
Many years ago, at the Clarinet Congress in London, a fellow had a quarter-tone clarinet, with extra keys for each quarter step. It worked, but sounded dreadful. All the extra holes ruined the response and tone.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-08-28 16:49
On some clarinets (the operative word is 'some'), one can raise the pitch of the third space C# by playing the C# with the clarinet resting on the knee, and using the right thumb to open the 2 top right hand trill keys along with also opening the throat G# key.
This unorthodox fingering should raise the pitch between 20 - 30 cents. A little additional tightening of the embouchure also helps this fingering as well.
Worth a try...GBK
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-08-28 23:56
Ken Shaw wrote:
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> I'm pretty sure that Philip Rehfeld's New Directions for
> Clarinet has a quarter-tone fingering chart. If not, Gary van
> Cott stocks several new-music instruction books.
An eighth tone fingering chart, actually.
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2002-08-29 02:03
I play an Oehler and I use the C# fingering which is te B key LH without the C key right hand and add the alternate C# key LH. Both keys at once. This will not work on a Boehm because the B key automatically shuts the the C. Might be a lip job. Just lip up or down a bit from either direction whichever is easier. Nobody is going to sit there and measure the exact interval I hope. If you have an instrument with a low E correction key that might work.
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-08-29 04:49
Now what do we do with Alois Haba's sixth-tone stuff? (My thought: who cares?)
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Author: Simone
Date: 2002-08-29 08:04
Thanks for all your help, I'll try out some of your suggestions.
BTW I have to play this tone in a piece called "Studio da concerto" by Bruno Bettinelli for clarinet solo. Anyone ever played this?
Simone
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-08-29 20:49
I dont know how this may relate to this thread, but , there is a US Patent re: Quarter Tones, whose # I believe I posted via an earlier ?. If of any interest, I'll repost it. Don
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