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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2002-08-23 02:55
I was looking at my Selmer bass clarinet when I noticed that the C#/G# key structure was much like that of a saxophone. That got me thinking about the (is it articulated? I'm not the best at terminology.) mechanism on saxophones where you press down keys with your right hand and it shuts the C#/G# key, making some trill fingerings a whole lot easier.
It seems that, hypothetically, you could attach a small peice of metal to the lower joint half of the bridge mechanism (The bridge that allows you to play 1+1 Eb, not the double register one.), bend it so that it aligns with the C# pad cup (Which is already in the front), and have that feature waiting for you.
Ok, I'm sure there must be something wrong with my hypothesis, but I'm not sure what. Somebody has HAD to have tried this before! Think it would work? Would it only work for a Selmer?
Not that I'm gonna try it or anything.
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2002-08-23 03:04
Patricola has already "beat you to it". I don't think that they make a bass, but have a similar key system for the Bb and Eb.
jbutler
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-08-23 04:00
David -
May I suggest an easier way? German makers have been using this for decades. They simply add a little extension from the C#/G# key so you can manipulate it with your right forefinger
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Author: ClarinetQween
Date: 2002-08-23 15:02
David- There are clarinets out there that are like this. I work at the National Music Museum in Vermillion, SD and I am currently catologuing Selmoer Boehm system clarinets. Of course these are all older clarinets, but they have articulated g-sharp'' mechanisms on them (How it works: in the top tenon in of the bottom joint there is a hole so when you put the clarinet together there is an extra key that covers that hole accomodating for the trill- there is more to it as well...) This is also seen on Full Boehm system clarinets as well- I am not sureabout newer ones, but definantly the ones that I see here at the Museum!
-ClarinetQween
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Author: Bob
Date: 2002-08-23 15:08
ClarinetQueen: recently visited the museum's website...quite impressive!
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Author: javier garcia
Date: 2002-08-23 20:00
On standard Boehm clarinets, the C#/G# key is a one piece key and it works as a lever. If you press the C#/G# pad you will have an upward pressure over your LH little finger. So it is imposible to make the trill on standards boehm clarinets without modify it.
The device works (as in oboes) because a double piece key mechanism, so the pressure over the first, allows the second to lift, but this can be press down without pressing the first.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-08-23 22:08
The earliest I know of re: articulated, or other versions of solving the clarion [Boehm] F# to G# trill "problem" is the patent to Pupeschi [Italy/US 512,449 {1894}] which was "commercialized" by Conn. I have one of these "hybrid cls", Al Rice gave me some info on it, and [to CQ/Debbi], I am considering giving it to Vermillion, unless you already have one! The several versions of the artic. C#/G# have been available on Full [or partial] Boehms, Selmers, Penzel-Muellers, Buffets etc since 1900, both sopranos and basses. So, David, this has been worked-on, and present solutions are not without problems, but dont let that stifle your inventive ideas. I have had some ideas, but am too oldt/lazy to try to get my name on another patent! Interesting, Don
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