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Author: brat
Date: 2002-08-21 02:05
hi! i have a playing test tommrow and we have to play with just the mouthpice and the barrel. the only problem is i'm really sharp, and we're talking really really sharp, like a step too high sharp.what can i do? helP!
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Author: DAD
Date: 2002-08-21 03:51
Hello list,
This is the dad butting in for his desperate daughter. Maybe I can better state her dilemma.
1) she feels that she is playing most notes too sharp, and pulling the barrel out from the top joint is not helping to flatten.
2) Her playing test is to play only the mouthpiece and barrel and to play F#. She is playing that sharper, G and above and is unable to achieve the F#.
I hope that I have stated this correctly. She is a second year player and just looking for some helpful advice.
Thanks
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Author: joevacc
Date: 2002-08-21 04:18
brat,
I was not trying to be a smart-aleck when I said "relax" that is very important.
One thing you might try is playing the F# with the clarinet assembled.
Than relax pull off the mouthpiece and barrel and try it again.
One of the most important things when trying to play in tune is hearing the note in your head first!
Good Luck you'll do it,
-=[Joe Vacc]=-
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Author: tim k
Date: 2002-08-21 14:16
THis is the type of exercise that greatly improved my sax embouchure. I was consistently sharp on sax. Try taking in more of the mouthpiece. Experiment with your embouchure. Try a softer reed, in case you are pinching because of too hard a reed. A good aspect to this exercise is you get immediate feedback from your tuner, and see the results of any change. It takes practice, but it does pay off.
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Author: Synonymous Botch
Date: 2002-08-21 21:43
Juat the barrel + mouthpiece to crow out F#?
Take in more mouthpiece, say 'Aaah' (or yawn) and blow against a tuner to see how much she can maneuver the needle.
More reed will vibrate, and the pitch SHOULD flatten.
Nothing like preparation to get around this dilemma, alas.
Relaxation really is a key element of this, more tension in the embouchure will tighten the support around the reed, raising pitch.
(A good skill to have available, later.)
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-08-22 03:31
All barrels are not created equal. I just grabbed my Amati 602's stock barrel with a Hite MP and a Gonzalez #2 1/2 reed, stuck them together (oops -- forgot the Bonade reverse ligature), and discovered that it produces a tone which is over 20 cents sharper than a concert G. If I eat the mouthpiece and lip it down to an F#, it sounds miserable. That barrel is 59.5 mm long. Yes, most Clarinets have barrels that are longer than this one, but some just plain don't. Different mouthpieces with different barrels will produce different notes. Could someone please explain to me the purpose of this exercise? Frankly, I can't imagine what it could be. I suppose my Clarinet teacher left that lesson out. Or is everyone in the group playing identical instruments with stock mouthpieces and barrels?
And brat, please give us a report. How did you do? What were the results?
Regards,
John
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2002-08-22 13:29
This method of testing sounds like a total crock of sh*****t. You are supposed to play the clarinet not the barrell.
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-08-22 22:53
Mark, please don't take this as a criticism of your spelling, but I think you put an extra * in "sherbet."
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Author: Bob
Date: 2002-08-22 23:11
Yes, it sounds like sherbert to me too but only because I never had such a test. I suppose it has some value but would really like to know what that is supposed to be. Also, yes, surprise on the short Amati barrel...I have one too.
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Author: joevacc
Date: 2002-08-23 02:06
You guys are very funny hahahhahhehehahhe! You just don't get it though... do you...? ;~) (removing tongue from cheek a little) It tells REED SPEED or AIR SPEED!
Get your tuner and just your mouthpiece and blow as if you were going to start your favorite piece. What note did you blow?
I blow a concert C natural.
Now lower the pitch and REMEMBER HOW THAT FEELS! Put your instrument together and play a little tune.
When I play with slower air and slackened embouchure the sound goes to "sherbet"!
How do you explain reed speed?
How were you taught reed speed?
I'll post my questions again:
"It would be great if some of the teachers here could explain a) how they teach reed speed and b) how they determine the consistency of a student's reed speed. "
Best,
-=[Joe Vacc]=-
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Author: joevacc
Date: 2002-08-23 02:31
JMcAulay wrote: "All barrels are not created equal."[snip]
Bob wrote: [snip]"Also, yes, surprise on the short Amati barrel...I have one too."
Very good point. My barrel on my 1947 Leblanc is 69 mm long. I hope brat's teacher considers her barrel length!
-=[Joe Vacc]=-
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