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Author: Kyle
Date: 2002-08-21 21:11
I got a new buffet e-11 2 weeks ago and I think last weekend 2 corks fell off. The upper joint Eb key and the lower joint's bananna key. Can I have some advice on how I can put them back on? or should I let my band director do it?
-Kyle-
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-08-21 21:27
Kyle -
If the corks were put on with shellac, you can heat the key with a match and press the cork back on. Equally good is to take off the key, scrape all the old glue off the metal and put the cork back on with Elmer's white glue.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-08-21 21:58
Kyle: While this is not intended as an argument against Ken Shaw's suggestions, if I bought a new larinet and two corks fell off within two weeks I would be telephoning the seller. Under the "cockroach theorem," which is readily proved, if you see one or two cockroaches on your kitchen floor, you may feel safe in wagering lots of money that many more are around somewhere. Likewise, if additional corks fall off your instrument, this would not surprise me.
Regards,
John
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-08-22 00:15
If your clarinet is "new" then surely it's under warranty and I would be getting this fixed (free of charge) at the place of purchase.
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-08-22 00:23
Take it back where you bought it and ask 'em to make it right.
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Author: james
Date: 2002-08-22 02:04
yeah, go back to the store. DON'T head anything or try to do it yourself.
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-08-22 04:44
James is absolutely correct and right to emphasize DON'T. If there's even a hint that you tried to fix it they can refuse to honor the warranty. Not good :|
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2002-08-22 09:08
Currently manufacturers are doing a very poor job of gluing corks, presumably because to do it well is considerably more time consuming.
If a couple of corks have fallen off already, then it is highly likely that they will all progressively fall off.
Changing ALL the clorks together is not a small job. But if you get them replaced (with real glue) progressively as they fall off it will be far more expensive. Of course this is most likely to be after the guarantee period. You will be the big loser!
I think that the reality is that you have a good case for getting the whole lot replaced under guarantee. But that may need a fight, and some judicious digging at other corks as evidence of the poor adhesion.
Unless buyers start doing this, several manufacturers will continue to get away with poor adhesion of corks. For example Le Blanc cork glue, throughout their range of instruments, has for decades had adhesive properties little better than cheese.
User pays unless user fights!
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-08-22 14:57
Gordon...Thanks for the reiterration on your astute comments (as usual) on clarinet repair.
I knew you had written before about the poorer quality of the glue being used by manufacturers, but couldn't quickly find it in the archives.
I was hoping you would comment again, and you did. Thanks...GBK
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-08-22 21:47
A quick comment re temporary repair:
If a cork does fall off and it is required for proper operation of the Clarinet, you can keep things going if you have a wee bit of double-sticky foam tape. Don't remove the non-adhesive cover, but rather trim the stuff and stick it onto the key or whatever, with the paper covering striking the instrument body or wherever. Need thicker? Use two layers. Outgassing from this stuff *will* tarnish silver over time, so replace the cork as soon as practical. This is a non-damaging temporary emergency repair, which should not affect your warranty. But again, Gordon (NZ) has it right. If two pads have fallen off in two weeks, more (likely all of them) are almost certain to go.
What on Earth is Schreiber using to hold them on? Used chewing gum?
Regards,
John
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