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Author: John
Date: 2002-08-06 16:24
I am playing a semi-pro orchestra audition soon and was wondering about what to do with measures of rest in audition pieces. As a panel member, I think I would expect excerpts to have measures of rest corrected counted out, but what about a concerto movement? It has always seemed awkward to stand there counting 10 measures of rest in spots where the orchestra is playing without the clarinet. I usually just pause and go on, but I have never heard anyone say what is normally expected. What do you do?
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Author: David Dow
Date: 2002-08-06 16:46
Count through them and don't skip a beat. Or do as I did, and ask the panel what they prefer. (At my audition i had to count the rests, and yes some we're quite long!) >>DD<<
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-08-06 17:05
John -
You must absolutely count the rests, even harder than you count when you're playing. Anthony Gigliotti said at a master class that he deliberately asked auditioners to start a few measures before a solo, and if you skipped the rests or didn't count them accurately, you were eliminated.
One of the most important things in orchestral playing is to make all the entrances exactly right, particularly those that come after many bars of rests.
From the musicologist and viola da gamba virtuoso Richard Tarskin: Anyone can be a virtuoso on the fast notes. Very few people are virtuosos on the slow notes; even fewer are virtuosos on the rests. That is, it's harder to keep your concentration up when all you have is whole notes, and even harder when you have rests. And it's worse to get off the best when you're playing whole notes than when you have 64th and 128ths.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: William
Date: 2002-08-06 22:09
Ditto the above. In retrospect, I think that, over the years, I have made more mistakes during the counting of long rests than misplaying written notes or rhythms. My old college band director used to always tell us, "He who does not count, is of no account." Show them you are one that can be counted on. (ok, I'll stop now)
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Author: Jean
Date: 2002-08-07 01:46
Golly, as a bass clarinetist that makes me a virtuoso. All me do in orchestra literature is count. Had no idea I was sooooo talented.
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Jean
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Author: Jean
Date: 2002-08-07 01:47
make that all I do...not all me do. You will have to pardon me, I am the mother of a 3 year old
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Author: Brenda
Date: 2002-08-07 02:26
As I was told for exams, always be prepared to count the rests, and do it well! If the adjudicator doesn't want you to take the time, he or she will say something.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-08-07 02:31
Hey - Aussie Nick - how's it going with you? Have you ever played the Quartet for the End of Time. If not, make sure you do so - it's a great piece and a tough one to play.
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Author: David Dow
Date: 2002-08-09 13:58
Excellent piece and fun to play...try the Abime de Oiseaux, with the rests counted properly. Some excellent sops here for dynamic contrasts and phrase endings. Good luck DD
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