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Author: nahya^^
Date: 2002-08-03 02:34
when i try to connect the upper and the lower joints, there's this thing that raises/lowers when i press the rings on some holes.
but they (the one on the upper and the other on the lower joint) meet each other when i put the on together. although i pressed the rings on the upper joints to raise the thing, not the lower joint's, then put them together, the second ring is always pressed in, and the lower joint's rings are always NOT pressed in, and it takes some force to press them in.
how can i fix this?
or is this normal? to have the second ring always pressed in, and the lower joint's ring not pressed in, even when i put a LITTLE force as i put on the first ring to press it in?
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-08-03 03:10
Get someone who knows about clarinets to look at it. Your description is too unclear to know if there is a problem, or if you are doing it wrong, or if you have bent the keys.
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Author: nahya^^
Date: 2002-08-03 03:26
on http://gofree.indigo.ie/~jonmca/clarinet4.html, there's a part where they talk about assembling a clarinet. and it says...
"When pushing the upper joint and lower joint together, there is a metal linkage between the two which may be damaged unless you proceed as follows:
Both upper and lower joints have rings around some or all of the finger holes. Make sure that as you hold the joints, the rings on the upper joint are pressed in while the rings on the lower joint are not. This raises the link mechanism on one side so that it doesn't get damaged. Gently push the joints together with a slight twisting motion. Line up the two parts of the link mechanism, then release your grip."
that's where i'm talking about. i didn't bend anything, but when the upper one goes over the lower one, the second hole ring is always pressed on, and the lower hole rings are not, making it hard for me to press them on.
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-08-03 03:29
It may have been bent before you got it, especially if you bought a used instrument. Take it to your local band instrument store and have the repair man look at it.
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Author: nahya^^
Date: 2002-08-03 03:54
when i completely join them together, the top one goes under the bottom one, like the website that had the instruction said. but after that, both of those things are unmovable. you have to put some force into the lower joint's hole rings to cover the holes.
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-08-03 04:39
The upper joint ring connecting lever goes On Top of the lower joint ring connector lever spatula.
Reminder: Never force anything.
Hold the top rings Down when assembling the mid tenon joints
The bottom rings should not be down when assembling.
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Author: nahya^^
Date: 2002-08-03 04:52
isn't the reason for holding the upper rings down is to make the thing go on top of the lower one?
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Author: nahya^^
Date: 2002-08-03 05:04
never mind. i get what you're saying. so it's not normal for the second hole ring be pressed down after i assembled the joints and after i took my finger off the second hole ring?
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Author: nahya^^
Date: 2002-08-03 05:06
never mind. i get what you're saying. so it's not normal for the second hole ring be pressed down after i assembled the joints and after i took my finger off the second hole ring?
and the holes on the upper and the lower joints should be alligned right? because if i twist it a litle bit so that i can freely press any hole rings, the holes on the lower joint turns a little bit to my right side and the upper joint to my left side.
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-08-03 05:50
1. ...isn't the reason for holding the upper rings down is to make the thing go on top of the lower one?
Correct
2. ...and the holes on the upper and the lower joints should be alligned right?
Yes
The top and bottom connectors must always be in contact. Pressing the bottom rings down will also press the top second ring down.
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Author: nahya^^
Date: 2002-08-03 06:15
ok but is it ok to twist the joints so that the lower joint's holes turn a little bit to the right and the upper joint's holes turn a bit to the left?
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-08-03 12:48
The lever on the upper joint goes on top the lever on the lower joint.
After it is assembled, the rings on the upper joint should go up and down freely when you press it. The rings on the lower should not move. Pressing rings on the lower joint should move the rings on both joints.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-08-03 15:03
Nahyah^^,
You really need to get some help from someone in your area. I know you're really excited and want to start playing, but even a short visit with someone who knows how to assemble a clarinet will really help you out - before you accidentally bend or break something. The problem with using something like the Internet is we can only advise you "after the fact" - after you have a problem, and can't really advise you on what to do to avoid the problem in the first place.
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Author: nahya^^
Date: 2002-08-03 16:18
i know....
i'm trying to go to a music store today for someone to look at my clarinet. i talked to some people yesterday who plays clarinet and found out that the reed touches your lower lip... i was doing it wrong. lol.
anyway. thanks for all your advices/stuff and i'll try to find someone who plays clarinet who has time to teach me some things.
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Author: bob49t
Date: 2002-08-03 18:05
I may be wrong, but it looks from the photo that the top element of the correspondenc (fishtail connection between joints) could be bent. Don't try to do anything with it until you take it to a repair shop.
Jpg files useful form of getting info to the BB. Well done.
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Author: BeckyC
Date: 2002-08-03 18:06
I just have to say this.....I can't help myself!!!
nahya,
"STEP AWAY FROM THE CLARINET!!!!!" and nobody will get hurt!!!
I am just kidding of course.
Please have someone SHOW you how to start off.......YOU wont even have to pay for that much!!!
Good luck.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2002-08-04 15:10
Of thousands of clarinets I have workded on there has not been one where the A/D ring key (which I think here has been called the second ring) needs to be depressed for safe assembly. With the way the bridge linkage is designed, the ONLY thing that is important is that looking from the bell end, the lower section is twisted anticlockwise (and/or the upper section is twisted clockwise) as the two parts of the linkage engage.
Also, on the majority of clarinets (in my perception from poor design), if these linkage sections are rotated slightly out of alignment, it will alter the adjustment that ensures that the A/D ring key closes synchronized with the low ring key.
on most clarinets I overhaul I alter this linkage so that when the keys are closed, the contact surface of the lower linkage arm is along an tangent (or arc, dependiing on its shape) based on the axis of the bore, and the contact surface of the upper arm is likewise a tangent. Then the linkage is reliable even if the joint is twisted slightly. I do recognise that some players may RELY on twisting to adjust a poorly adjusted linkage.
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