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Author: Joe
Date: 2002-07-19 01:39
I'm a high school student who will be majoring in clarinet performance. I know there are a ton of excerpt books out there. Which is the best or has the most commonly asked foe cuts in pro auditions?
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Author: Mike_M
Date: 2002-07-19 12:55
Check out <A
href="http://www.orchestralclarinetist.com/clarrep.html">The Orchestral Clarinetist</A>. They list the
results of a survey take a while back.
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Author: Jerry McD
Date: 2002-07-19 13:23
International has a set of 8 volumes. Some of them were out of print recently. I understand most of them are back. Volumes 1 and 2 have the most...especially volume 2. Lots of mistakes so you need to check scores, which you can do from the library at the music school you attend. Bonade also has good excerpt books and there is a book by Peter Hadcock called 'The Working Clarinetist' which has lots of valuable knowledge. An expensive book but one you will eventually want to own. Where are you going to college?
Jerry McD.
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Author: ChattyClar
Date: 2002-07-19 14:36
I use Bonade's Orchestral Excerpts. I like the fact that everything you need is in one conscise book, which means you can carry it around with you to your lessons or to orchestra rehearsal. Have you purchased recordings? My clarinet teacher told me when I went off to college two years ago to invest in recordings of all the Beethoven and Brahms symphonies. The excerpts are good practice, but hearing the solos performed is invaluable! I recommend the Cleveland Orchestra under George Szell with Robert Marcellus.
Where are you going to school?
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-07-19 14:56
The excerpt books published by International came out in 2 groups. The first 4 volumes were edited by Robert McGinnis (principal in Philadelphia and New York in the 1940s and 50s). They have most of the famous solos, in very short bits. Also, they have a lot of typographical errors. Still, they've been the standard for many years.
A second set (vol. 5 through 8) were edited by Stanley Drucker and have much longer excerpts, primarily from late 19th and early 20th century pieces. Unfortunately, they were published without getting permission from the copyright holders and had to be withdrawn. These volumes can still be found from time to time in used music bins or on eBay.
International also published several volumes of Wagner excerpts in the 1960s, but they are long out of print.
Kalman Bloch (former principal in Los Angeles, father of Michele Zukovsky) has put out at least 2 books of excerpts, which I'm sure are available through Sneezy (opps, clarinet.com -- opps, woodwind.com) sponsor Gary Van Cott. I've read that these are more reliable than the McGinnis books.
For Eb clarinet, the Peter Hadcock book is essential, particularly for the Til Eulenspiegel part transposed from D to Eb.
For more, check the Van Cott site, http://www.vcisinc.com/.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-07-19 15:16
ChattyClar said: "...I use Bonade's Orchestral Excerpts. I like the fact that everything you need is in one conscise book..."
Hardly.
The Bonade book has a great deal in it - but certainly doesn't have "everything you need" (your words). For starters - where is Schubert 7? Sorcerer's Apprentice? Kamarinskaya? Peter and the Wolf?
You get the idea...
The International set of 8 has much more but is riddled with errors - play one of the misprinted excerpts wrong on a major audition and they show you the door. You must check the score and fix the mistakes.
The set of 3 books by Kalman Bloch are excellent, and highly recommended, but are in no way all you'd ever need.
I also have an excellent 2 volume set by Giampieri "Studi D'Orchestra", but do not think it is still in print.
Combine all 3 (or 4) of the above publications, with the actual scores of some of the more modern works (eg:Copland) and you should have all that you'd need...GBK
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-07-19 15:17
Ken, as usual posted some excellent advice, as I was writing my post.
Sorry if I repeated some of his thoughts...GBK
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-07-19 16:35
GBK -
Great minds run in the same weird channels. You can repay me by cash, check (certified, please) or money order.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Larry Liberson
Date: 2002-07-21 11:35
Forget excerpt books...they're handy, but hardly inclusive of what you need to know and what you need to play.
If you're serious about orchestral playing (and really knowing what your obbligation is as an orchestral player) slowly start accumulating the individual parts. The role you play is much greater than simply the solos -- and you just might be surprised when a tutti section is plopped on the stand in front of you at an audition.
Study the scores and recordings to understand how you fit in a given piece of music. Orchestral playing -- GOOD orchestral playing -- is a bit more involved than playing your prominent four bars and then getting back to your magazine!
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