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Author: Pam
Date: 2002-07-13 19:18
It also has oboe, sax and bassoon in the description. The seller is probably just trying to get more people to look at it. Would you ever think to look for a heckelphone on e-bay?
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Author: Laurie
Date: 2002-07-13 19:46
hmm.. I'm sure this sounds very naive but.. whats a heckelphone ?
thanx !
laur:)
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Author: lynn
Date: 2002-07-13 19:49
They are putting the "keywords" in the title so that anyone who looks up any of those woodwind instruments will find it. It saves the cost of listing it in more than one category, and like Pam said, who would look for a heckelphone anyway?
Lynn
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-07-13 19:56
If I held a firm grasp on bliss and/or ecstasy, never would I release either for a mere $21,000.
Regards,
John
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Author: Brian Peterson
Date: 2002-07-13 20:22
Imagine the scenario...
"Ah, honey. You know that money we set aside for Jr.'s college fund. We'll, I've decided to invest it in a heckelphone."
BP
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-07-13 22:08
1 Heckelphone @ $21,000 = 12 Buffet R-13 clarinets
1 Heckelphone @ $21,000 = 1312 boxes V-12 reeds
1 heckelphone @ $21,000 = approximate hourly salary of Barry Bonds in 4 hour baseball game ($80,246/game)
It's all a matter of perspective...GBK
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Author: Willie
Date: 2002-07-14 04:35
I don't think I've ever seen one listed on a score. Whats written for it?
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-07-14 13:34
Please read your Baines, pg 98, for a learned descript. and music for it, Salome, Electra, and ! Holst's Planets ! Its a bass oboe [designed-made?] by Heckel [Germany], to complement the bassoon??. I would guess its harder to play well than an English Horn [which ?could? be called the tenor oboe, to "satisfy" the S A T B classification we discussed earlier], the oboe d'amore in A, being the alto??]. When I retrieve my Sachs, will see what he has to say, also Groves. Interesting, we all need ONLY one tho , as with the high Ab clarinet!! Don
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Author: Michael Kincaid
Date: 2002-07-14 14:21
Thank you Don for the description and
information. A bass oboe!--didn't know one existed; what a
beautiful instrument. The double reed instruments are
very interesting to look at--never really wanted to play one though.
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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2002-07-14 22:37
Looks like an English Horn to me, keywork and all. (Though I'm sure there's a big difference b/w the two... )
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Author: jeff
Date: 2002-07-15 03:14
The Heckelphone is very similar to the bass oboe, but has a wider bore and its sound is broader and more robust than the bass oboe. Its pitched in the key of C and goes down to A below the staff and I believe would be considered a baritone oboe. Other than that, the only other major difference between the Heckelphone and bass oboe is that the bass oboes I've seen pics of have more bassoon-type bocals, with a curve. My orchestra is doing The Planets rights now (I'm playing the English Horn Part) and we need a bass oboe since its part is pretty significant, but unless we can scratch up 20K for one, or rent one ($475 a month) its doesn't look like its gonna happen.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-07-15 04:35
Seattle - the city of dreams?? I must have dozed off on my last US trip when I went through Seattle.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-07-15 17:36
This instrument has drawn a lot of interest on the Contrabass board. The seller and the instrument are well known among low instrument players. It has all the optional keywork, and it's the only pristine Heckelphone of this type to come on the market in years. The word is that there are only half a dozen in the world like it. For Heckelphone players, this really is a big deal.
Richard Strauss and many other early 20th century composers wrote for it. For more pictures and a repertoire list, go to http://www.contrabass.com/pages/heckel.html.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-07-15 19:00
Thanx, Ken, yes a rarity, even among our low, expensive woodwinds. As to the names for these oboes, Grove's Dict. uses baritone oboe [in French, Basse de Hautbois] , and distinguishes the Heckelphone from the"ordinary" "bass-baritone" oboe, with both pros and cons! I'll bet the number of persons in the world capable of playing and discussing these insts are many fewer than the competent contrabassoonists. Bid on it, some things are better than money!! Don
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-07-17 05:50
Heckelphone ... just listen to the London Symphony's wonderful recording of the Planets (Holst), Andre Previn, and you'll hear what one sounds like. There are other good recordings around of this work, but the LSO's my favourite.
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