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 The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12 3½
Author: GBK 
Date:   2002-07-09 22:08

With the recent talk about the tip change (flatter) of the Vandoren V-12 reed (specifically the 3½) I thought I would try them and compare the difference to the old style.

(I have played the V-12 3½ as my primary reed for many, many years, with the Gonzalez FOF (recently) as a very formidable alternative.)

I must now say that until Vandoren reshapes the tip back to way it previously was, I will no longer be using the newer V-12 3½, as this new change to a "flatter" tip shape is totally unsatisfactory.

Even with my reed adjusting skills (which I consider quite good) these are very difficult to work with, and now require a different balancing than before.

How has everyone else fared with the newer V-12's?

Does anyone know if this new "flatter" tip is only on the V-12 3½, or on all V-12's?

Thankfully, I still have a very large cache of the "older" V-12's, and a good supply of Gonzalez FOF's...GBK

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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
Author: carmen izzo 
Date:   2002-07-09 22:48

Ah yes, the flat ones. ..

In recent times i have noticed them as well. I noticed that they still can produce a good sound, but I think the life expectancy of most of them has been decreased along with this tip flattening. The tips have been flat for some time now, but I have been succeeding in the High School Clarinet World, so. . . I'm going to stick wit them.

Carmen

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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
Author: Kristen D. 
Date:   2002-07-10 16:23

How long has this been going on? I also use the v12 3 1/2.
I've not had to buy any reeds over the past year because I had
so many on me. I don't remember them advertising this change.
Are they not going to continue with the older style?

Kristen D.

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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
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Date:   2002-07-10 17:06



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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
Author: James 
Date:   2002-07-10 17:59

May I just say. I really hate those flat tip reeds. I mentioned this back many months ago and a lot of people didn't know what i was talking about then. The difference is that you can get a great sound right out of the box, but they last for not very long. The sound will thin out really fast and articulation is sluggish. Sometimes i get lucky and find an old box and cherish them. I was at a local music store and found non flat tips and i bought 10 boxes.

I really want to try these gonzales reeds. Where are they avalable at? Has anyone tried the rico evolution? Legere?

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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
Author: Rob Bell 
Date:   2002-07-10 19:19

I tried the evolution and to be honest i didn't like them! I still play with Grand Concert Thick Cut (blue box i think!)

Rob

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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
Author: L. Omar Henderson 
Date:   2002-07-10 19:47

Gonzalez FOF and Mozart reeds are available from Davie Cane
>http://www.daviecane.com<

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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
Author: Gretchen 
Date:   2002-07-10 20:40

doesn't the flat tip match the vandoren mouthpiece tip? Maybe that's why? no clue.

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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
Author: Gregory Smith 
Date:   2002-07-10 23:20

Perhaps this recent thread would be of interest:

http://www.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=81993&t=81949

Gregory Smith

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 RE: The new "flatter tip" Vandoren V-12
Author: jbutler 
Date:   2002-07-12 00:08

Eureka!!! Doing a little bragging here, but I don't do that very often. I just found a stash of the old VanDoren reeds that I put away and forgot about. You know, the ones in the skinny purple box with the gold label. Four unopened boxes of them along with a few boxes of Tenor and Bari Sax!!!! Saved me from having to order reeds. I guess they've been stashed away for more than 10 years. The first one I pulled out played great! (No this is not a sales pitch either, I'm keeping these!)

<a href="http://www.cork-and-pad.woodwind.org">jbutler</a>

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