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Author: ?
Date: 2002-07-08 20:14
Not satisfied with my Vandoren B45 mouthpiece I decided to try something else and ended up bringing home a couple of Vandoren B40 and two different kinds of Charles Bay mouthpieces: One thatīs marked "Nuance" (MO-L) and the other one is browncoloured (also MO-L). I found that the Bay mouthpieces gave a "darker" sound than the Vandorens and I liked the tone of the brown mouthpiece more than the Nuance.
I could use some advice....anybody has any opinion of the Bay mouthpieces compared to the Vandorens? After all, the Vandoren B40 is more common (why?) and the Bay mouthpieces are more than twice the price. Do you also have the impression that the Charles Bay give a softer, darker tone?
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Author: Corey
Date: 2002-07-08 20:38
I have a charles bay mouthpiece, it's an artist model, the chedaville copy, and love the dark tone they give. They are twice the price b/c charles vay mouthpieces are hand faced not machine manufactured like vandorens. I cann't give any advice for vandorens as i have not played any, but i have heard that they are good mouthpieces for the price.
good luck --
Corey
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-07-08 20:44
Corey wrote:
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> They are
> twice the price b/c charles vay mouthpieces are hand faced not
> machine manufactured like vandorens.
They're twice the price because that's how Charlie Bay values his time. Other hand-faced mouthpices may be half the price or twice the price.
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Author: David Spiegelthal
Date: 2002-07-08 21:14
Whatever the market will bear is a fair price for any product, right? Consider those misguided deranged people bidding as much as a thousand bucks for some old Kaspar mouthpiece on eBay --- makes a Charles Bay sound like a bargain, doesn't it? And remember what P.T. Barnum said about suckers........
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Author: W.C. Fields
Date: 2002-07-08 21:31
Never give a sucker an even break.
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Author: James
Date: 2002-07-09 06:27
I have tried many of Charles Bay's mouthpieces and I have not cared for them at all. They don't give me the kind of sound that I like to have. Yes it's dark but they are dull. Aren't his mouthpieces like over two hundred dollars as well? I mean that's a little crazy considering the other options on the market. Hawkin's makes mouthpieces at 100 dollars and Greg just fifty more. Everyone mouthpiece made by them for me has played better than any bay. Atleast try a Hawkins or a Smith.
Also in vandoren I have never found a mouthpiece I really liked from them. They all seemed so stuffy and closed off... Then not to long ago I tried their M15 (13 series {and not to confused with the m13}) It is a great mouthpiece! My friend at eastman told me that its what they are all using and i clearly see why. They are pretty new but I know they are avalible at the woodwind. Heck if money is an issue, flat out maybe a Vandoren m15 is for you. Anyhow all I am is saying don't close off your options.
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Author: beejay
Date: 2002-07-09 13:32
I have a Vandoren B45 and a Charles Bay MO-L (brown colored, as you describe) I hardly ever use the VD. The Bay mouthpiece is smoother, sweeter and easier to blow, although marginally less powerful. I think it's a great mouthpiece.
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Author: clarinetqween
Date: 2002-07-09 17:51
I also have a charles bay mpc that I use on my Eb clarinet. I originally had a Vandoren b45 (?) that came with the clarinet and when I changed I noticed my sound just open up and be freed so to speak. I hope that my input helps, it os okay if it doesn't!
-ClarinetQween
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Author: David Dow
Date: 2002-07-11 11:27
Once again it is really what you get in terms of the amount of money you spend. Some of the Bays are really quite nice, and it would be best if you could possibly let Bay send you 10 or 20, and allow you to pick the best out of a batch. Even among specific facings there may be a wide variance and characteristics that may be more appealing than others with in the same facings. Specifically, you should find what is comfortable and in tune without having to work so hard for control that life is unbearable. Mouthpieces are also subject to change and warping no matter who makes them, but I'd say a hand finished Bay is certainly a good mothpiece. At the risk of sounding blunt, a mouthpiece is only part of the wheel of technique and not neccessarily the thing that will solve everthing with technique. Apparently. some of the M15s( vandoren) are very good according to colleagues of mine in other orchestras, but don't buy the first one you try! Remember alot of what you think is guided by what works best---- then by all means buy. When you consider the difference in $1oo.oo for a mouthpiece the price is not the problem so much as whether or not you are satisified with the way it(the mouthpiece) performs for you....Sincerely DD
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