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Author: JackOrion
Date: 2002-06-29 01:26
I guess the obvious answer would be, if it sounds and plays good to you then use it. I have a Buffet on the way that dates to 1950 on the Boosey.com search. It's a pre R13. I picked it up for a good price and excpect to have a good OH done. My situation is a matter that I can't purchase a new pro moedel so I'm always keeping an eye out for a diamond in the ruff.
I'd realy like to pick up a B&H 10-10 but they are just so rare. This will be my first Buffet and although the condition is excellent who knows how it will play. The seller whom for some reason I trust, thinks it will be an excellent instrument with a good OH. So my quaestion(s) will stand as, at what age will you not bother with a clarinet? Further does anyone know the age of the oldest clarinet still used by a pro? Silly questions, maybe but interesting to me. Thanks indeed.
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2002-06-29 03:20
Jack,
I am not a <i>pro</i> but I do teach and used to do some dixieland/jazz BWAK (before wife and kids!). At any rate, my main horn up until my <i>new</i> LeBlanc arrives next week is a Selmer BT built in 1934. I've been playing it as my main instrument for the last year or so. I also have a 1953 Centered Tone that, in some ways, I really like better.
jbutler
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-06-29 04:09
My R13 doesn't come close...only from 1969-70, but I've owned it since 1983 and will NEVER give it up!
I just got a C (LP) Albert, which is probably from the 20's? (Anyone wanna hazard a guess on a horn that has no serial #? ) So that's my oldest horn now...
Katrina
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2002-06-29 14:32
I echo J B's comments, having a '32 FB and a '53 CT which I have promoted to my #1 and #3 status [my L7 is presently #2]. John, check the Pruefer thread, via it, I'm thinking of trying my Pr "under fire". Don
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-06-29 15:51
Ron,
I just got it on Wednesday...bought it off of Ebay, and it's in really good shape. It had been repadded and given new tenon corks, and the keys have obviously been buffed/polished. It's a J. W. Pepper, but I can't find a serial number. All I know is that the L.P. probably puts it before 1930 or so... So far I really like it. It came with a wood mouthpiece that I believe is the original, and it's in good shape too. BTW, I was told by a local repair guy that you need to wet a wood mouthpiece just like you would a reed. I could barely get a sound out of it before I did as he suggested. Any feedback there?
Katrina
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-06-29 17:12
Hi, Kat
I have no feedback re wet wood mpcs. The only one I ever owned was broken :( I'll check with my tech/mentor later today and compare notes with you. But, yeah, wet mpc wood makes sense. I'd never considered that. J.W. Pepper made (or imported?) brass winds too, if I'm not mistaken. They show up periodically on the cornet auction site. That may give a clue (for dating) or it may lead down rabbit trails. I don't know, just a passing thought.
My horn had kid skin pads when I got it. I replaced the upper joint ones. The lower joint pads are old but still seal well - except for the bottom one that was missing its pad cup... I replaced that. It's mixture of kid skin and double skin pads doesn't seem to make the slightest difference. It sounds like a clarinet, a little more 'edge'(?)... maybe, but just like a clarinet.
I don't know that the L.P. stamp will help date anything (mine is not stamped, by the way). LPs and HPs occupied adjacent space for so many, 30/40(?) yrs., before settling on today's standard, without serial numbers and factory records it's anybody's guess.
I think I saw your horn when it was up for auction. As I recall, it looked pretty nice. But I already have one so, we're still bidding buddies - not grumpys :] Hope you continue to enjoy playing it.
Talk later.
- ron b -
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Author: Mark P.
Date: 2002-06-30 04:00
I don't play professionally. But I have a pair of 1902 Buffet full Boehms that I play sometimes. The tone and intonation is fine except for the donut shaped Eb pad. The repair tech used a bassoon pad for that and I'm thinking a cork pad would work better, improve the pitch. These are the one piece body full Boehms and I mainly purchased them because my clarinet teacher in high school had a set like them that he'd been given by his father back when he was first learning in the. I thought they were so cool that I'd always kept a lookout for a similar set. I bought the pair on eBay last summer and had both overhauled.
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-07-01 04:49
According to a couple of people I talked to this weekend, Katrina, wetting a wood mouthpiece won't harm anything. It gets wet anyway So, I suppose, if you wet it before commencing your playing session... all the better. Maybe it makes a better seal when wet.
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Author: Kat
Date: 2002-07-01 14:40
Yeah, I'm not sure about the seal, because according to this tech, you just put the mp tip-down in a small glass of water...you wouldn't want the TIP to be sealed to the mp! And the table (?) doesn't really get wet, so the butt end of the reed doesn't really get "sealed" anyway. All I know is that before soaking the mp, I could barely play a note, and that after soaking it, I had no problems getting a good sound out of the horn.
Katrina
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-07-01 16:02
Ahhhh, the mysteries we run into I figure; as long as it works and it's fun and doesn't hurt anybody... Happy Tootin' :]
It's a good tip to have in our 'tips an' tricks' memories, Katrina. Thanks for passing it along.
Does your horn have plain ol' nickel-silver keys or are they plated? That *might* give you a general indication of its age...(?) Maybe John B. or Dee or someone who knows lots more about that will comment, if possible, before this thread fades into history.
- ron b -
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Author: Mandy
Date: 2002-07-01 19:47
I regularly see pairs of 10-10s advertised in the adds of Clarinet and Sax, magazine here in the UK, they seem to be not that rare.
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