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 WHAT'S THIS.. AN EXTRA HOLE??!
Author: Jas 
Date:   2002-06-22 21:39


I am not going to begin by stating that I think this is a stupid question... it's not a stupid question unless I already know the answer. And I don't so....

I have seen some clarinets, particulariy on ebay, that have an additional hole drilled into the tenon of the upper piece. It appears to me that this hole is covered up once the instrument is put together.

I have seen enough of these to beg the question... what's it do? Why, pray tell, is this hole there? What's it's purpose?

I know all of you, my clarinet friends, can put my mind at ease. I look forward to, and thank you for, your knowledgeble replies.

Jas

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 RE: WHAT'S THIS.. AN EXTRA HOLE??!
Author: ron b 
Date:   2002-06-22 22:40

It's a very good question, Jas. Glad you brought it up :)
We could probably put this to rest in short order if a pic were available. But we don't at the moment so, here's a first guess *assuming* the hole you're describing is through the middle joint tenon. If it's somewhere else, we have a serious problem :|
The 'extra' hole you observed is most likely on an instrument with the articulated G#-C#. The design places the tone hole through the middle tenon joint, the corked upper joint middle tenon and the receiver, bottom joint middle tenon. The tenons must always be aligned -- however, no problem if it's a one piece body. The 'articulated' G#-C# key can be activated by another key, usually a RH ring I believe, making trills easier, also allowing an alternate fingering for that note. These instruments often have other alternate fingering mechanisms as well (though not always) and many with this feature are Full Boehms (with the low Eb key, though not always).

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 RE: WHAT'S THIS.. AN EXTRA HOLE??!
Author: Jas 
Date:   2002-06-23 00:35



Ron b....

The hole in question is indeed how you have described. We are on the same page!

Thank you.
Jas

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 RE: WHAT'S THIS.. AN EXTRA HOLE??!
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2002-06-23 13:14

We have discussed this frequently and since my first good cl was a Full Boehm Penzel Mueller [vintage 1920's], these extra keys have been of great interest to me for years. They have their pros, and cons tho, as well. Search 'articulated C#/G#' and/or 'full Boehm' for more info. It does give a better note, clarity and pitch, but does require alignment and good adjustment. Luck, Don

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 RE: WHAT'S THIS.. AN EXTRA HOLE??!
Author: javier garcia 
Date:   2002-06-23 14:38

This device allows for a perfect B-C# or F#-G# trill, but it makes impossible to play high F with RT xxxG#/xxx.

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 RE: WHAT'S THIS.. AN EXTRA HOLE??!
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   2002-06-23 16:28

True, J G, any rt hand fingers 1,2,3 down closes the pad/hole. aren't there a number of alternate fingerings? Don

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 RE: WHAT'S THIS.. AN EXTRA HOLE??!
Author: nzdonald 
Date:   2002-06-23 22:11

but then the high F is so much better that it doesn't matter about the "long f" not working.... my real bug is that many multiphonic fingerings won't work- but i supose that this is not a hassle if you don't ever play any contemporary music (now i think about it, i guess it's nearly a year since i last played a multiphonic in a concert.....)
donald

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 RE: WHAT'S THIS.. AN EXTRA HOLE??!
Author: Terry Horlick 
Date:   2002-06-26 09:09

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