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Author: Shannon
Date: 2002-06-19 06:34
Not to sound like a dumbass... but what exactly is a clarinet?? any help would be appericated.
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Author: Ilkka
Date: 2002-06-19 06:37
Who is the REAL judge what You should sound???
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Author: joevacc
Date: 2002-06-19 06:51
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Author: RonD
Date: 2002-06-19 13:39
If you dont know why are you on this board???????????
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Author: Don Poulsen
Date: 2002-06-19 13:57
I think this is a valid question and Mr. Spiegelthal gave the definitive answer. It is possible that Shannon is on this board merely because she(?) wants to learn something about clarinets. It is also possible that, as a clarinetist, she doesn't really realize what differentiates a clarinet from, say, a saxophone. (A lot of people, including some clarinetists, think the difference is that clarinets are straight and made of wood and that saxophones are bent and made of brass -- none of which is necessarily true.) In any case, Shannon, you are welcome to post your clarinet-related questions here.
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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2002-06-19 15:07
Sounds like a valid question to me too.
To differentiate between the clarinet and other woodwinds would be as follows:
Clarinet vs. Saxophone Family: Saxophones have a conical bore, while clarinets, as David Sp. said, have a generally cylindrical (or polycylindrical) bore.
Clarinet vs. Oboe Family: Oboes have double reeds, while clarinets have single reeds.
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Author: Eddie ashton
Date: 2002-06-19 15:53
Clarinets have a mainly cylindrical bore & a stopped end as a result of which they overblow a 12th.
Oboes, bassoons and saxophones have a conical bore with a stopped end and overblow an 8th(octave).
Flutes have a mainly cylindrical bore with an open end and they overblow an 8th(octave).
I think!?
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Author: Wilfred Berk
Date: 2002-06-19 17:59
The arguement over the cylindrical bore thing has gone on for ages, remember the bell flairs out quite a bit, so, this is definitely a cone and hence the scietific arguement officially begins here...its really the upperjoint where we have out and out clyinder, and, the german instrument seems to flare out somewhat less...the bell is a cheif determinant of whether the instrument is a clyinder or not? most are unsure on this one.... The flute, whick, is conical certainly looks very clyindrical yet the bore is not what it appears.... but mainly clyinder is ok I guess...the hard science is in the actual upper 2/3rd of the instrument and the chief determinant is what is reffered to as the shortened octave or 6 inch or 8 inch ocatave(ie remove the upper joint by itself and play it you still get the determinant upper partial which on other instruments requires more tubing or elongation to get the same range....on other winds more tubing so hence the clarinet...
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-06-19 18:13
Wilfred Berk wrote:
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> the bell is a cheif determinant of whether the
> instrument is a clyinder or not? most are unsure on this
> one....
Not, since the clarinet air column stops at the first set of open holes. Remember, it is not a <b>valved</b> instrument.
Time to study your Benade ...
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2002-06-20 09:53
Clarinet. An instrument operated by a person with cotton wool in his ears. Their is only one thing worse than a clarinet; TWO CLARINETS
"The Devils Dictionary" Ambrose Bierce
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Author: jez
Date: 2002-06-20 19:08
Eddie,
I know that you've seen lots of clarinets (including mine) so you MUST know that they don't have a stopped end. There's a big hole down there. The, effectively, cylindrical bore makes it behave like a stopped tube. To appreciate the stopped tube effect try playing a tin whistle or flute (bottom note) & close the end, it suddenly jumps down an octave.
The flute behaves as a conical (I nearly said comical) tube because the head-joint is always shaped thus.
Can anyone tell me what 'polycylindrical' means? It's one of those words that I've seen many times, but realise that it means nothing to me.
jez
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-06-20 20:08
jez wrote:
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> Can anyone tell me what 'polycylindrical' means?
Literally - "many cylinders". A polycylindrical clarinet is composed of more than one cylindrical section (normally 2) - an abrupt "step" where the bore increases by a small amount.
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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2002-06-20 20:48
jez, if you play recorder, stop up the bottom and see what note comes out. It does something even slightly more unusual on mine; it jumps down only a sixth.
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Author: IHL
Date: 2002-06-21 09:41
Don't rule the difference by outward appearance, or argue about physics. It's the difference in <i>sound</i> that really matters. Here (it helps to be synasthesic):
timbre:
note - these are my interpretations of the instrument's voices only. You might or might not agree, but what can I do?
Clarinets have a smooth velvety sound that tends to thin out at higher notes. Saxophones have a bright, rich sound that can have a similar 'feeling' sometimes to the human voice. The oboe has a kind of nasal sound (not Fran Drescher nasal, *nice* sounding nasal) which greatly accentuates sadness when the oboist is playing lamentoso.
style (forgive the generalisations):
clarinets are used a lot in classical, 30s-40s era swing jazz, marching bands and folk music. Saxophones, having 'evolved' more recently, are not very common in the orchestra but thier sound is used in many other styles of music, especially jazz. The oboe is also used in classical music but (as far as I know) has not moved far out of that field.
that should 'splain enough.
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