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Author: Micaela
Date: 2002-06-07 16:03
I love this piece but I'm not much of a flutist so I think I might try arranging it for clarinet. I know there's no published transcription thanks to the database here but has anyone tried playing it? How did it sound? Which clarinet did you use? (I think E flat may be a good idea because of the high notes but I don't have one.) I think most of it would be workable, a few parts may not really transfer. Would it hurt the piece if I moved down a third or so to make it more playable? It could end up sounding dreadful, but there's no way to tell for sure without trying. Besides, I'm off for the summer and need something to do.
Thanks,
Micaela
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Author: Rob Bell
Date: 2002-06-07 17:18
Hi!
The Chaminade is an incredible piece, if the arrangement works would you send me a copy!!!
Thanks,
Rob
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-06-07 17:48
Micaela -
Funny, I heard the Chaminade on the radio just a couple of days ago. I agree with you -- it's much to good to leave to the flute-snoots.
Flutists play the Franck Violin Sonata and the Khachaturian Violin Concerto, and there's even a version of the Mozart Clarinet Concerto on flute.
Clarinetists play the Prokofiev Flute Sonata, the Reinecke Undine (Flute) sonata, and even the Beethoven Violin Concerto and the Mozart Bassoon Concerto, so it's certainly OK to take the Chaminade for our own, even if there are a lot of "flute sounding" bits in it.
Playing on Eb, however, goes too far. High notes are shrill enough without tempting fate with an effer. A step down and for Bb would be about right, or at the original pitch if you can manage it technically.
It's a great project. Let us know how it goes.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Micaela
Date: 2002-06-08 14:32
I'm going to buy the music next week and see how it sounds. There are quite a few Bs so I think I'll move it down a step or two (I can handle a few transposed Cs but not that many).
Ken- You're right about the E flat. I've only played one once and I don't really know their sound very well.
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Author: Rob
Date: 2002-06-09 12:16
Good luck!
I page turned for an accompanist once when they did the Chaminade in a concert and my friend is playing it with many sleepless nights!!
If i remember it is a see of black!
Rob
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2002-06-10 19:23
>there's even a version of the Mozart Clarinet Concerto on flute.
I have a sheet music for Brahams clarinet sonatas on flute.
It was a mistake that I bought it. Disappointed.
I play flute better than clarinet and do not like Chaminade's. Enesco or Poulenc have much more deepness. than Chaminade or Bosa.
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Author: bassclarinetchicka88
Date: 2003-07-26 18:46
i must admit im not always a big fan of the flute sound, but the first time i heard the chaminade it took my breath away. its an incredible piece and if the arrangement works (and i certainly hope it does!!) send it to me too!!!!
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Author: rbell96
Date: 2003-07-26 19:07
If it hasn't been arranged I will do it this summer.
Rob
Post Edited (2003-07-26 19:13)
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Author: chicagoclar
Date: 2003-07-27 02:38
Keep us posted on how it works out. I love the piece also. Definately would be interested in a version for clarinet.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-07-27 03:05
chicagoclar wrote:
> Keep us posted on how it works out. I love the piece also.
> Definately would be interested in a version for clarinet.
Perhaps the current copyright holders would allow Rob to make a little money selling it.
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Author: theclarinetist
Date: 2003-07-27 04:41
I think it would be fine to transpose it down quiet a bit! The piece is lovely, and I think some of the melodic stuff (like when the piano is tremolo-ing) would sound gorgeous in the lower range of the clarinet.
While I understand the meaning of the phrase "flute-sounding" (when applied to musical passages) I think it's foolish and limiting to let a concept like that stop you. Even if a certain sound is most common on a flute, that's only because clarinets haven't done it YET (yet being the operative word). I say go for it. There's nothing to lose, and a WHOLE lot to gain!
Best of Luck,
Don - theclarinetist@yahoo.com
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Author: rbell96
Date: 2003-07-27 08:18
Does anyone know who holds the copyright for the Chaminade?
Rob
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Author: Micaela
Date: 2003-07-27 15:12
Wow, I didn't expect this topic to pop up again!
FYI, I got a good portion of the piece done but didn't finish it due to my usual crazy schedule. I'd like to finish it sometime, though. The main barrier was the amount of time it took to input the thing into my computer. And I'm not sure how the cadenza will turn out.
Sorry, I don't know who holds the copyright. I was never planning on publicly performing this; I just wanted to hear how it sounds.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-07-27 17:14
rbell96 wrote:
> Does anyone know who holds the copyright for the Chaminade?
Schirmer seems to be the main publisher of the Flute Concertino, so I'd start with them if I were you.
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Author: rbell96
Date: 2003-07-27 17:23
Mark,
Where did you find that out? I checked the Schirmer website and can't see it.
Rob
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2003-07-27 17:32
Google:
chaminade flute concertino publisher
Instrumental Work English G. Schirmer GS29072
on the 1st hit.
Concertino, Op. 107, by Cécile Chaminade, new version by T.R. George, CN 331A (1987), flute and piano, Publisher-Southern Music Company
Concertino, Op. 107, by Cécile Chaminade, new version by T.R. George, CN 331B (1987), flute and orchestra, Publisher-Southern Music Company
on the 2nd hit, etc.
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Author: diz
Date: 2003-07-27 22:24
In my humble opinion - I think it would sound odd on the clarinet ... it is so beautiful for the flute and it's silvery sound. Brahms' clarinet sonatas do not, on the other hand sound odd on the viola - especially considering Brahms himself made the transcription.
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