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Author: Guenter Berner
Date: 2002-05-22 19:42
Hello,
I'm an absolute beginner and currently in the process of selecting a clarinet. But i'm still unsure (even after reading thru lots of messages at the woodwind.org discussion board) what instrument to buy.
The following instuments come into my mind and are in an acceptable price range:
Buffet E11
Buffet E11 (18/6) does the extra Eb key make sense to a beginner?
Buffet E12
Buffer E13
Yamaha YCL 450
Yamaha YCL 34 II S
Yamaha YCL 64
Would an E13 or YCL 64 "outperform" all of the above or would a E11/12 or YCL 34/450 with top mouthpiece make more sense?
Which clarinet is the best buy for the money?
I know that these questions depend a lot on personal preferences - but i don't have them yet
Thank you very much in advance.
Guenter
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Author: madvax
Date: 2002-05-22 20:56
Here is my recommendation for an absolute beginner:
1. Get a good mouthpiece, such as the Hite Premier or Fobes Debut.
2. Get a good student clarinet and develop your skills until you can make decisions about personal preferences. The big four clarinet makers all have good models and you really can't go wrong with any of them. My order of preference is:
Buffet B-12
Yamaha YCL-20, or YCL-26
Leblanc Vito
Selmer CL-300
3. Find a teacher to at least get you started and get a few basics under your belt.
4. Did I say get a good mouthpiece?
5. Enjoy making music!
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Author: Bob Arney
Date: 2002-05-22 21:06
Guenter, Hang loose. There is an expression:
"Hell is paved with good intentions." You are undoubtedly going to get overwhelmed with good intentions and good recommendations. Too many for you, at your starting position to absorb and to be able to take advantage of. Here would be my own "good intention."
Take MADVAX's comments 1 and 2 to heart. Buy a good basic student's clarinet (the one of your own choice--Mine would be a basic E11) with a good mouthpiece (again a reall matter of choice. A Hite would be a good middle off the road selection.)
Then. Practice, Practice Practice--with a teacher. To develop your own style, not one borrowed or technologically produced.
THEN--Make your own educated decision. You will find by then you may have changed your mind three or four times.
Good luck and remember to ENJOY>
Bob A
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Author: Bob
Date: 2002-05-22 21:19
My opinion. I agree about getting a good mouthpiece first but my choice would be a vandoren 5RVlyre. Then get a new plastic clarinet...any of the "big names" such as Yamaha,LeBlanc,Buffet etc.
from your friendly closest music store....so if you have trouble you can get it fixed quickly. You could get the mouthpiece from him too or from a mail order supplier. As a beginner you don't want to worry about the potential cracking problem with a wood clarinet. Who knows...you may never even need to "move up".
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Author: Mitch A
Date: 2002-05-22 22:15
It'll be two years before you can make a proper choice in a clarinet, but to start off if you would not be renting, buy an E-11. Solid choice even for many semi-pros and doublers.
Get the best mpc you can find. Some are as cheap as $55.00, such as the John Pierce model. Very open and I love mine.
Stick with a good teacher, good, not a HS student.
Good Luck.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-05-22 22:46
Hi
Talk to your teacher s/he will be should able to give you informed, quality advice (otherwise s/he shouldn't be teaching). Unless you're taking lessons from a teacher who doesn't play clarinet - in which case go to a store and try some out in your price range and talk to the sales person, you might first ask if that person is a clarinetist. You need to be happy with the "feel" of the instrument. All the top brands make beginner instruments, all of them (more or less) are good quality. Don't forget Selmer or Leblanc here.
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Author: Sarah
Date: 2002-05-22 23:17
Don't forget to get a couple boxes of reeds. Somewhere around 2 or 2 1/2 should work depending on what mouthpiece you select. A good starting point might be Vandorens. (there are a lot of other good brands too, ask you teacher if he/she recommends one brand over the other)
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Author: Josh Schultze
Date: 2002-05-23 14:55
Günter,
Welches System würdest du benützen? Weil du in der Heimat wohnst, es gibt mehere mögichkeiten einen Leher den das Deutche System spielt zu finden. Meiner Meinung nach, zuerst soltest du einen guten Lehrer finden sollst. Nacher kann er/sie eine klarinette, Mundstücke und Blättern mit dir wählen. Es wäre nicht vorteilhaft wenn du eine Boehm Klarinette kaufen würdest, und einen Lehrer der dieses System nicht spielt nicht finden kannst.
Auch empfehle ich daß du die Blätter in Deutschland nicht kaufen sollst. Da sind sie zu teuer: 26 Euros is gebräutlich. Nimm einen Zug nach Brussels oder Paris wo du einen besseren Preis finden kannst: gegen 18 bis 20 Euros. Oder ein Freund, der in einem von diesen Städte wohnt, kann dir Blättern schicken.
Der Rat, den du vorher bekommen hast ist benützlich aber es wäre besser wenn du den Rat eines Lehers folgen würdest.
Sei gut
Josh
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Author: madvax
Date: 2002-05-23 19:19
Mark Pinner wrote:
> Hite Premiere are a $20.00 mouthpiece! Good?
Don't let price fool you. These mouthpieces are great for a beginner or even for an experienced doubler. They are very similar to the Hite "J" series, except the premier model is plastic.
Why are they good for beginners? Because they are easy to play and tend to be very forgiving. Even an inexperienced embouchure can make a decent sound. I also believe this mouthpiece tends to discourage biting.
Sometimes what works best for a pro, does not necessarily work best for a student. The job of student equipment is to aid in developing basic fundamentals. Refining the artistry comes later when the artist understands the preferences he/she desires.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2002-05-24 16:32
Absolute thing you should keep: excellent pads/spring/pad-chimeney elevation adjustments.
Second thing:every manufacturerers do not make the tone hole positions to soude same. The scales sound different to us. That is your choice.
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