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Author: Jim S.
Date: 2002-05-22 21:25
Does anyone know anything about Zinner Metal Clarinets? See the site below:
http://www.hans-zinner.de/Produkte/Hans_Zinner_English/Products/Metal_Clarinets/metal_clarinets.html
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Author: monica
Date: 2002-05-23 02:41
I JUST CHECKED IT OUT AND IT DIDN'T SHOW ANY INFO ON IT BUT IT SAID TO EMAIL A GUY ON IT SO I DID!HAVE NEWS ABOUT IT SOON:)
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Author: Kenwrick
Date: 2002-05-23 03:37
I sent a message in September about this after seeing it on the website. Hans Zinner replied.
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we make only a Bb metall clarinet with 17 keys and 6 rings silver-plated.
Best regards,
Hans Zinner
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I followed up with a message asking if anyone distributed the clarinet in America. I didn't get a reply.
-kenwrick
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Author: javier garcia
Date: 2002-05-23 13:28
Orsi also makes metal clarinets
see: http://orsi-wind-instruments.it
look for clarinets in the catalog and special clarinets.
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Author: Massa
Date: 2002-05-23 14:40
Hey folks,
I'm also very curious about Zinner metal.
Hope monica will receive some info from Hans.
How much is it anyway??
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Author: monica
Date: 2002-05-24 15:18
I'M ON A SCHOOL COMPUTER SO I CAN'T CHACK MY EMAIL, BUT I WILL WHEN I GET HOME.IT'S JUST THAT SOME OF MY FRIENDS AND I WERE DICCUSSING IT WHEN ONE SAID "WOULDN'T IT SOUND ALOT LIKE A SOPRANO SAX?" WHAT DO U GUYS THINK. PART OF ME THINKS IT PROBABLY WOULD AND ANOTHER PART THINKS"WELL...."
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-05-24 16:53
monica said:
<<...I'M ON A SCHOOL COMPUTER .....
Is your school computer stuck in upper case letters?? :- GBK
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Author: Todd Wees
Date: 2002-05-24 20:16
GBK --
No, it was probably just noisy in the classroom so she had to shout.
David --
Is it not true that the main reason it would sound like a clarinet and not a saxophone is the clarinet bore shape (cylindrical) and size is different from the saxophone (conical)? It seems the consensus is the materials (metal, wood, plastic) would have no discernible effect on the sound.
Todd W.
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-05-24 20:44
The clarinet sounds like a clarinet regardless of material because acoustically it functions like a cylinder closed at one end driven by a single beating reed.
A saxophone will sound like a saxophone regardless of material because it is a conical bore driven by a single beating reed. While saxes are usually metal, there have been plastic saxophones.
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Author: monica
Date: 2002-05-24 21:17
GBK- NO!!!I JUST ALWAYS TYPE IN UPPERCASE LETTERS FROM AN OLD HABIT STARTED BY A FRIEND OF MINE.BUT EITHER WAY, IT SHOULD HAVE NO EFFECT ON UR READING CAPABILITIES;p
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-05-24 21:23
monica wrote:
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> GBK- NO!!!I JUST ALWAYS TYPE IN UPPERCASE LETTERS FROM AN
> OLD HABIT STARTED BY A FRIEND OF MINE.BUT EITHER WAY, IT SHOULD
> HAVE NO EFFECT ON UR READING CAPABILITIES;p
But it does. There have been many studies done - upper/lower case properly mixed (along with completely spelling out words that aren't normally abbreviated completely) increases comprehension.
Low bandwidth situations such as Morse code or less than 1200 baud connections may require abbreviations, as does typing back and forth in near-real-time situations like IM ... but that's not the case on the BBoard.
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Author: DAVID
Date: 2002-05-24 21:30
Woh Mark! i don't think Monica needed a scientific explantion.Sounded she was just defending herself...why?Who knows!That just goes to show how people have to much time on their hands to be testing the way people write.
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Author: ken
Date: 2002-05-24 22:08
Expanding a little on Mark's post regarding upper case:
A fluent reader will recognise lower case words very much by their 'shapes,' meaning the patterns created by ascenders and descenders and groupings of narrow and wide letters.
WHEN WE USE UPPER CASE FOR WHOLE SENTENCES PEOPLE FIND IT A HARDER READ (WITH A CONSEQUENT DROP OFF IN COMPREHENSION) BECAUSE THE WORDS ARE MISSING A BIG PART OF THEIR visual individuality.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-05-24 22:46
WELL, DAVID, IF WRITING IN ALL CAPS LOSES COMPREHENSION, THEN I'D CALL IT A BAD HABIT.
There are a number of posters who wonder why people don't respond to their question. This is one of the reasons. I know I only skim all cap postings because I don't have the time to really concentrate on reading them.
As I only scan postings that use IM abbreviations extensively.
Maybe it's only me, but I doubt it.
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Author: jim lande
Date: 2002-05-26 03:37
I wrote to a collector in Germany, who replied that he Zinner metal clarinet offering is really the Orsi. Zinner, he says, makes mouthpieces (which he personally uses.) Orsi keeps all instrument toolings and apparently can make new copies of anything they have ever offered. I dont' recall seeing any old Orsi metal clarinets on eBay, but Orsi may have Sold some under different names. There were a lot of italian metal clarinets sold,. I supppose that it is worth writing to Orsi to see what's up.
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