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Author: carmen izzo
Date: 2002-05-16 04:04
Hi guys. . .
Soon i will be in the market for my new B-Flat clarinet! I currently own a Noblet 45 (Bb) [AN AWESOME HORN] and a Concerto (A) [also wonderful!!]. I noticed that as much as i love my concerto in A i have also found a strong affection for the Buffet B flat clarinets. This may change as i research and look at more concerto B flats, but the thought occurred to me what a set mixed set would be like. I know my buddy james agress with me on the quality of the lebalnc A clarinets and buffet b flats, and so i kinda feel like my confusion is not neglected. I understand the task and discomfort in switching between to very different clarinets if owning a mixed set and this keeps me at a distance from embracing the idea, but still i cannot completeky be sure about anything until my research in both types of clarinets is complete. My question is that if anyone here has or does play on a mixed set of clarinets and how they feel about it. Thanks for letting me vent! Good Clarineting all!!!!
~carmen izzo
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Author: Cindy
Date: 2002-05-16 05:39
I play a mixed set. I have found that, even though both play well, I get used to the feel of the Bb becasue I play it much more, so it is a bit harder to go between than if they felt about the same. But, it is not too hard to do. I lean both ways, if that is possible.
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Author: David Dow
Date: 2002-05-16 10:24
I paly in Symphoic repetoire a mixed set...I have a Selmer 10G Bb which I like a great deal and an older A clarinet which is an R13 from around 71 which I purchased when studying in Boston. The newer A Buffets to me are something of a dissapoinntment due to the color change (which is abrupt) from low d to c, and ,also some aspects of the tonal emission are less favorable. Probably the Vintage line would be a stronger reccommendation for a good Buffet A clarinet these days....
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-05-16 14:54
Carmen -
I played for years on an R-13 Bb and a Selmer Omega (Centered Tone)A. They were quite different, and it took me a couple of minutes of warmup on the A to get locked in. After than, I never had any trouble. I switched to an R-13 A only when I found one I liked better than the Selmer.
Play on what gives you the results you want, and don't worry about the brand or model.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: William
Date: 2002-05-16 16:00
Ditto the above. For a few years, until I got my Concerto Bb, I played on a R13 Bb/Concerto A set and experianced no problem going between the two (then again, I am an experianced doubler on saxes and flute). Recently, I have been considering returning to my R13 Bb as I am not exactly happy with the tone quality and projection of the Concerto. I agree with Ken, play on what gives you the results you need. Buffet/Concerto--no problem as far as I am concerned. Good Clarineting!!!!! (the only goal)
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Author: Tom Reeves
Date: 2002-05-16 18:05
I play a pair of Peter Eaton Clarinets, they are quite simply the best clarinets in the world. They are favoured by many pros like Jack Brymer, Gervase de Peyer and Emma Johnson. Anyone with a tone like de Peyer's or Johnsons should be very pleased, something that can be acheivable with these clarinets.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-05-16 20:56
Tom Reeves wrote:
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> they are quite
> simply the best clarinets in the world.
LOL!
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Author: nzdonald
Date: 2002-05-16 21:23
for many years i played a very well matched pair of Yamaha Custom clarinets- but in 1998 replaced my B flat with a Buffet R 13. Now i have to use quite different fingerings in the Altissimo register (instead of slightly different fingerings) and i have found the old advice that Buffet play out of tune but Yamaha don't sound as good to have some truth ('though nothings ever quite as simple as that).
The major problem is that different reeds will please each intrument, but this is on a very subtle level. Finger wise, swapping is a small problem, but not much trouble really- try doing your scales, swapping from B flat, to A, to Eflat halfway through each page, and after a while you'll find the change no problem at all!
Also- many players use a different barrel for Bflat/A- in my experience this is less common outside of the USA actually, and while i studied in the US and like many US players etc i am too lazy to do this and use the same barrel on both instruments (a Barrel made by Jimmy Yan in New York). However, if you have a pair that have markedly different resistance etc it may be possible to find a barrel for each that will bring them closer together (and then swap mouthpieces)(i really should do that- my A clarinet plays just a little bit better with my Moenig Barrel).
donald
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Author: jez
Date: 2002-05-17 08:25
Whilst I agree with Tom Reeves that Peter Eaton makes very fine instruments, if you want to sound like Gervase de P. you might do better to get Rossi's. That,s what he plays.
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Author: larry
Date: 2002-05-17 14:45
I too play a mixed set - Bb is a Selmer Singature; A is a Selmer Recital. The differences between the two are pronounced, particularly the bore sizes (the Recital is very small bored).
The important issue is to be sure that your mouthpiece/reed set up is compatible with both instruments. If you are comfortable playing, then there shouldn't be a problem.
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Author: Tom Reeves
Date: 2002-05-18 11:27
What are you "LOL" -ing about Mark?
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Author: Fred
Date: 2002-05-18 13:59
Not trying to speak for Mark . . .
but anytime I hear the phrases "quite simply" and "the best clarinets in the world" used together, I get quite a chuckle myself.
If we can't agree on anything else, we should be able to agree that we are NOT all going to agree on clarinets. It is definitely NOT simple.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-05-18 15:45
jez wrote:
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> Whilst I agree with Tom Reeves that Peter Eaton makes
> very fine instruments, if you want to sound like Gervase de P.
> you might do better to get Rossi's. That,s what he plays.
I'd love to sound like Gervase did about 30 years ago - way prior to his Rossi days. IMHO he sounded better in his younger days than now.
Tom - Fred's exactly right. There are a number of very fine makers out there - and Peter Eaton is a sponsor of this place - but there truly isn't any one best clarinet in the world.
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Author: nzdonald
Date: 2002-05-20 21:46
re Gervase de P.- i agree with Mark in that he did actually sound good a while back, there is this old LP that i have, i play it to people and they can't believe it's the same player as on the more modern recordings.
the man makes great music, but i've seen people LITERALLY run from the room in his live performances because the tone is so awful.
his phrasing seems so natural, i imagine he could be a very inspiring teacher.
donald
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Author: Thomas Piercy
Date: 2002-05-27 13:59
re: Gervase De Peyer.
Putting aside any discussion of his tone (now and then), your imagination about his being an inspriring teacher is correct. Having studied and coached with him for many years, I can testify that he is a very inspriring teacher; demanding and careful.
Tom Piercy
thomaspiercy.com
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