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Author: Tara
Date: 2002-05-13 23:12
Okay, I'm gonna make this short and sweet!
I'm a student clarinet player... I'm big on the visuals of these clarinets. My director says if I buy one, I can only play it marching season.. unless I can get a good sound. She seems to think that these Clarinets don't get a good sound. Can someone give me some feed back on this? And Also, if anyone has a White or Golden Yellow Vito Dazzler for sale, I would like information on it.
Thanks So Much :-)
-Tara
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-05-13 23:47
I would not think the colour of the plastic would have any affect on the sound of these, compared to the "black" ones. They are rather outrageous, however and I harbour a secret desire to play a white one in a sleazy nightclub NOT.
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Author: carmen izzo
Date: 2002-05-13 23:53
Its interesting that your director has the authority to not let you play on an instrument of your choice. . . .
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Author: Tara
Date: 2002-05-13 23:59
She's not exactly telling me I can't play it.. She's just limiting it to WHEN I can play it ... She's very picky about her Clarinet sound.. and I am one of the few players in our band that gets the sound she wants.. there's only 4 out of the 22 Bb Clarinets we have that get the sound she wants.. I don't blame her.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-05-14 00:00
carmen izzo wrote:
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> Its interesting that your director has the authority to
> not let you play on an instrument of your choice. . . .
When it comes to something as "outre" as a yellow clarinet ... I'd imagine so ...
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Author: Tara
Date: 2002-05-14 00:05
See, Our School Colors are that Yellow.. and Green and White... I wouldn't use the yellow one during wind ensemble.. I'm not that crazy!!! .. You all seem to think I am! I have pride in my school.. and that yellow would look awesome on the field during marchin season!
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-05-14 01:46
Vito Dazzlers will sound like regular Vitos. What do you play now?
What brands & models does your director prefer for her clarinet sections? If she allows student grade instruments, the Vitos are one of the best. If she requires intermediate or pro grade instruments, then she is unreasonable.
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Author: Jim E.
Date: 2002-05-14 03:00
I've seen them on the field in band competitions, both a single red one in a sea of black clarinets, and a whole section (in a small band) of yellow horns. From a (great) distance the yellows looked like sop. saxes. I really was not impressed.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2002-05-14 10:35
There has been extensive discusssion on this before. Try a search.
I think they look as tacky as pink or yellow hair.
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Author: jez
Date: 2002-05-14 12:41
If you like colourful clarinets, you may be interested in a mouthpiece option.
Brian Ackerman in England (I assume someone in the US must do it) offers a service where he will make a mold of any mp. so he can produce a copy. I'd seen his reproduction boxwood instruments and noticed that the mp. was a similar colour to the wood, so when I had my favourite mp. copied, I asked him about colour options. He told me anything was possible so I just asked for the brightest thing he had. It came in a striking yellow and is now my favourite mp. It sounds & looks great!
I wonder if Greenline might come, one day, in green?
jez
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Author: Jim S.
Date: 2002-05-14 14:37
Do you use it when performing on the telly?
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Author: jez
Date: 2002-05-14 15:19
Jim S.
If your question was aimed at me, then the answer is, invariably.
I also possess an Olegature ligature in gold which sets it off very tastelessly.
jez
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Author: Cory
Date: 2002-05-14 18:27
We used the white Dazzlers in the marching band at IU for awhile. They're certainly good for getting a laugh. They played as well as any vito. The imp in me was always tempted to show up at master class with my white horn. Did't think that would make the impression I was looking for, though.
On a side note, the white ones start to yellow with age (lots of age). They become more vanilla bean than white.
cory
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Author: beejay
Date: 2002-05-14 19:41
At the 2001 Musicora exhibition in Paris, Buffet Crampon was displaying colored Greenlines -- silver, green and blue, as I recall. I'm not sure they ever marketed any though.
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Author: David Pegel
Date: 2002-05-15 02:16
I still like the crystal clarinets. Wonder if Vito can make Dazzlers that are clear. But then, they wouldn't exactly dazzle. Still, couldn't you imagine the judge's face during marching season when he sees the soloist playing on nothing he can see....
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2002-05-15 12:30
Just imagine it - a clear dazzler with all that calcium deposit showing from inside the instrument, and the coloured lint build-up in the tone holes, and maybe some pretty green mould around the thumb key tube where the cleaner never cleans.
And dare I mention the tenons and sockets!
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Author: Kathy
Date: 2002-05-15 15:01
My band colleague brought a clear, copper-keywork clarinet to practice last week. I believe it was a Vito. I don't think they market them as Dazzlers, though. I don't know whether they still make them.
It was very cool looking.
Kathy
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Author: Joe O'Kelly
Date: 2002-05-15 22:16
most likely a Buffet B-12
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Author: lynn
Date: 2002-05-16 16:29
I would think the color of the plastic wouldn't make a difference in sound.....plastic is plastic, isn't it???? If it's plastic, it will sound like plastic, not like a wood horn.....
Lynn
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Author: Dee
Date: 2002-05-16 19:31
lynn wrote:
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> I would think the color of the plastic wouldn't make a
> difference in sound.....plastic is plastic, isn't it???? If
> it's plastic, it will sound like plastic, not like a wood
> horn.....
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> Lynn
It is a myth that material makes a difference. The difference is in the design. Beginner horns don't sound as good as pro horns regardless of material, although a truly fine player can make them sound virtually the same to the audience.
Once upon a time beginner horns were also made of wood and they sounded like beginner horns (i.e. like today's plastics). Matter of fact the better brands of plastic horns sound much nicer than some of the old beginner woods simply due to design advances.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2002-05-17 15:55
Some people will always argue about Dee's first paragraph, but the second paragraph is profound truth.
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