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 Music and pre-med
Author: Sally 
Date:   1999-07-21 15:43

What colleges are good for BOTH music and pre-med concentration? I am willing to travel, any input is appreciated.

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   1999-07-21 16:03

University of Michigan


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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: 'nifer 
Date:   1999-07-21 17:12

University of Wisconsin-Madison is excellent at letting both of those majors together. I have many friends doing both... (just dont expect to get done in 4 years)
http://www.wisc.edu
'nifer

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   1999-07-21 17:33

Michigan State [and all of the Big 10+ !]. I believe Elsa L. Verdehr is there , following in Keith Stein's teaching.

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   1999-07-21 17:41

Don Berger wrote:
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Michigan State [and all of the Big 10+ !]. I believe Elsa L. Verdehr is there , following in Keith Stein's teaching.
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Elsa's there, but their med program doesn't begin to compare with U of M's

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: David Goss 
Date:   1999-07-21 18:44

You've got it in for yourself. I've found being a music major is a 24/7 committment. I'm looking at 5 years just for music. Good luck and have fun!

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   1999-07-21 20:24

Now, now, Mark, I'll grant that the U of M has at least one of the best med-schools in the world, I can only realistically discuss engr. and chem., but please, we are no longer the cow-college of Mich!

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   1999-07-21 20:36

Don Berger wrote:
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Now, now, Mark, I'll grant that the U of M has at least one of the best med-schools in the world, I can only realistically discuss engr. and chem., but please, we are no longer the cow-college of Mich!
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LOL! I know, I know :^) My good friend and top programming ace (I hired him) comes from Mich State. His dad is head of Ferris State. It's hard being in the shadow of that big school that keeps snarfing up of of MI's education money.

But it _is_ a good school for music, engineering, and medicine. I'd recommend Mich St. in an instant for all the other liberal arts courses, though - a lot cheaper, and just as good if not better.



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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Don Berger 
Date:   1999-07-21 20:55

Thanx Mark, nuff said. Glad you mentioned Ferris [formerly Institute], my parents [B R area] went there and former Gov. Ferris helped my dad get a job!! Also Mich. Mines in the UP has a good rep. Yes, they all ask us old-grads for money now and later! frequently, guess modern education is very expensive, but worthwhile.

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: steve 
Date:   1999-07-22 14:27

I can't believe that anyone didn't mention Northwestern....music school speaks for itself.....pre med is very high powered, with several options.....6 year honors program ( 2 ug then med school), a biomed engineering option, an integrated sciences major...


that being said, both programs require extreme work....best to decide one or the other....I went pre med, realized I didn't like sick people, then became a chemist....

also....medicine is starting to seem to be a not-so-fun gig...at least in music, you dont have to get pre-approval of an insurance company to change phrasing...

read on amazon.com....a review of lieurance wind quintet recording of modern american stuff (james jones, clarinet):

"It's easy to assume that the best American musicians can only be found in the 10 or 20 U.S. orchestras with the biggest names and operating budgets. But that's just not always the case, particularly among wind players. Partly because of the high level of wind teaching at American conservatories and partly due to the __ridiculous oversupply__ of talented musicians, we find excellent musicians all over the country. Those featured here, principals of the Wichita Symphony wind section, are outstanding."


and so it goes...
s.

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   1999-07-22 14:42

steve wrote:
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also....medicine is starting to seem to be a not-so-fun gig...at least in music, you dont have to get pre-approval of an insurance company to change phrasing...
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No, but when Marcellus was there it was the equivalent ...
:^)

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Connie 
Date:   1999-07-23 21:57

Boy, are you guys midwesterners or what? We have lots of fine institutions on the east coast, too. But do you want to be a professional musician, or just major in something fun and interesting along the way to medical school? If you're looking for the latter, you need to choose a competitive undergrad program for getting into med school, and maybe do a general music major, as is offered at U.Va. That wouldn't necessarily consume all your time, and you can fit in your pre-med requirements as well.

Good luck to you...20-some years ago, I tried to do the same thing, only to be told by the music dept. that I didn't have enough piano background to take the entry-level theory, so I'd be looking at 5 yrs for a music major. Changed to biology, and now I'm practicing medicine and wishing I had more musical background and opportunities!

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 RE: Music and pre-med
Author: Mark Charette 
Date:   1999-07-24 05:16

Connie wrote:
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Boy, are you guys midwesterners or what?
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Can we help it that some of the best "combo" schools are here? [he said with a grin]

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 RE: Music and pre-med...aside to Mark
Author: Connie 
Date:   1999-07-27 14:47

Mark Charette wrote:
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Can we help it that some of the best "combo" schools are here? [he said with a grin]
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Bias noted (return grin!)

In all fairness, I would think the point of taking a pre-med program would be to get into medical school, which requires superb grades especially in the pre-med courses, from a top-notch college. I know very little about music depts. other than the ones my daughter looked at, but I do know there are many excellent places right here in the Southeast from which to apply to med school.

Incidentally, my daughter settled on James Madison University, to major in music education. Because of the general education requirements and the music dept requirements, she'll wind up with about 140 credits before graduation, rather than the minimum required 120, and that's not including a semester of student teaching. I can't imagine loading a pre-med program on top of that!




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