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Author: Ab
Date: 2002-04-15 03:45
what do u think of this piece? is it difficult? are the viola and piano parts difficult?
also, why is the viola part the only part wiht a coverpage? does that mean that it's more important?
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Author: Gb
Date: 2002-04-15 08:02
are the clarinet and viola parts equally important do u thilnk?
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Author: susannah
Date: 2002-04-15 11:25
I have played this piece a couple of times and although it is not hugely difficult I think that people underestimate it. The recurring rhythm in the first movement is very often played wrong with the demi-semi's or whatever they are (I haven't got the music here) being played as plain demi's (or whatever, ie. one thing slower). (I'm sure somebody else on the board can get this correct if you're interested)
The fact that the viola part has a cover-page has nothing to do with how important it is, it's just the publishers way of making the music fit neatly onto the right amount of pages.
Yes, I think that the viola, clarinet and piano parts are all equally important, it is true chamber music not a clarinet accompanied by viola and piano.
I hope that I have answered some of your questions... a lot of this stuff is personal opinion, once you have played it, you can make up your own mind.
P.S. Why did you use 2 different names?
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Author: graham
Date: 2002-04-15 15:38
In the 78rpm version, Frederick Thurston plays it with exactly the error Sussanah mentions, and I find it very annoying!
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Author: jez
Date: 2002-04-16 11:10
I think it's a great piece, not too technically demanding, but very rewarding, a good test of blending and matching in chamber music.
Regarding the rhythmic problem susannah mentions; it is often played with the small notes twice as slow as they are written. Obviously not Mozart's intention, but if you try to play them exactly as they look, they sound out of character with the relaxed tempo of the movement, so I think some compromise is called for. Some thing about half-way between the 2 seems about right to me.
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Author: susannah
Date: 2002-04-16 11:33
Jez, I don't agree with you that you shoul play the rhythm differently to how it is written. I would think that Mozart knew exactly what he was doing in writing the rhythm how he did.
Maybe you should think less about what you think the character of the piece should be and more about Mozarts
(no offense, I just think its weird that you should take it into your own hands to change the rhythm!:)
Still... other people have done it also, so I guess it could be called a valid interpretation?
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Author: jez
Date: 2002-04-16 12:06
susannah,
firstly forgive my ignorance of computer and BB terminology, but what is meant by "Mozart,s"
Secondly:- no offense taken, I know it seems weird to look at a piece of Mozart and decide to ignore what he's written. I'm quite happy to re-assess my interpretation of the piece. Could you recommend ANY available recording where this rhythm is played exactly? or any pianists or violists (preferably in the U.K.) who are capable of doing it convincingly? I'll start practising my turns.
jez
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Author: susannah
Date: 2002-04-16 23:43
I have a CD with Sabine Meyer playing it. They do pull the whole thing around a little at the beginning, but I seem to remember that the rhythm is basically correct.
I'm sure that there a lots of Violists/Pianists who an play this. I mean we managed and I live in Australia...so UK should be no prob. Perhaps last time you played it they just didn't realise?, because it kinda confusing.
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Author: Eneri
Date: 2002-04-17 20:09
I'm working now on this piece, and I agree that is isn't technically difficult. But it's not so easy to make the piece interesting, especially the third mouvement. I like the piece, but with all the repetitions you really have to work on interpretation. But it''s a nice piece to play, also for the viola and pianoplayer.
Enjoy!
Eneri
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-04-17 22:49
Hm, Mozart - "not technically difficult" - what is it with the obsession about technique???
Give me the musical mastery of Mozart over the technical fireworks of Paganini (for example) any day. A wise old person once said (please let me know if you know who it was) only young children and old men can play Mozart well. I don't know if I agree completely with this statement but it certainly indicates that "experience" and "innocence" are key components.
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Author: Rob Bell
Date: 2002-04-18 13:28
The Kegelstatt is a GREAT piece. I played it a few months ago its great to play. We are working on the Brahms A Minor Op. 114 at the minute so that should be interesting. It is also great to play!
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Author: susannah
Date: 2002-04-19 03:41
Yes..the Brahms is an awesome trio! Especially the 1st movt.
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