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Author: Db
Date: 2002-04-08 21:17
what's ur fav?
i love my bonade. i hate my rovner. it muffles my sound. it's like holding a fluffy pillow over my instrument. grrrr!!! i spent like $15 on that piece of junk! thinking of sellling it over ebay.
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Author: Brian
Date: 2002-04-08 21:24
I love my Rovner. I usually experiment with placement and tightness to find just the right sound I am looking for. Never tried a Bonade but would like to try that and a Vandoren Optimum.
Gigliotti is also a good ligature.
Peace!
Brian
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-04-08 21:38
Warning: Bonade ligatures often need to be adjusted (with a pliers or small tool) so that the rails are the only part of the ligature that touches the reed. Many are poorly made and thus permit the band of the ligature to also touch the side of the reed.
This obviously defeats the purpose of the inside rail - thus an adjustment is necessary...GBK
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Author: Sandra F. H.
Date: 2002-04-08 21:51
You are right about the Bonade ligatures, but my favourite is still the Bonade inverted. I've tried lots of others, but bear in mind that ligatures+reed+mouthpiece+barrel in the right combination are what really makes the difference. I don't like Rovner ligatures, but many of my peers do like them.
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Author: Dave
Date: 2002-04-08 22:01
I have always liked Kaspar ligatures. They are rare, but well worth the effort if you can find them.
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Author: William
Date: 2002-04-08 23:12
Currently playing VD Optimums (parallel rail insert) on my Bb, A and bass clarinets. I also agree with GBK regarding the Bonade inverted as being "finicky" to keep in adjustment, but my Optimums give the same results and do not go out of adjustment. I formerly used Winslows (still do on all my saxophones). Also (and then I'll be quite) I dislike the Rovner and any of it's "wannabes". If you like the old Kaspar ligs, you may like Charles Bays models--they are copies and behave about the same. Good Clarineting!!!!!
(didn't someone once say, "A lig in time will save nine"--?????)
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-04-09 00:01
The Bonade inverted works very well for me, even better than Get-A-Grip Velcro. But I cannot imagine why the band is bent *so* much near the rails.
I have a genuine broken Bonade. It cracked where the band is bent, right on the left edge of the "G" where "pat. pending" was stamped. I admit to being rather ham-handed when it comes to tightening the screws, but it is a shame the metal was so weakened when the ligature was made that it broke apart rather easily. I suppose this is rather distinctive, as I have never heard of anyone else actually breaking a ligature band while putting it on.
A new Bonade is on the way. When it arrives, my first official act will be to smooth out the sharp bends, just as GBK has suggested. Wish I had thought of doing that to the last one. That 17 bucks or so could have bought a really good reed (along with a large number of duds).
Regards,
John
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-04-09 00:06
John...Put the broken Bonade ligature on eBay. Call it "vintage" and watch the $$ roll up...GBK
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Author: Karel
Date: 2002-04-09 01:27
I love my Peter Spriggs "floating rails" ligature.
Karel.
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Author: Clairgirl
Date: 2002-04-09 02:34
Vandoren Optimum!!! I love it! and when I don't I change the little inside metal thing and then I like it again!
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Author: Ed
Date: 2002-04-09 02:58
I am still stuck on the Bonades. Lots of ring to the sound.
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Author: lala
Date: 2002-04-09 05:14
I, too, am currently playing on an Optimum. And this reminds me to ask, has any Optimum user noticed that the little piece of metal inside goes askew when you tighten the screw? Do you have to adjust it each and every time?
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Author: graham
Date: 2002-04-09 08:14
Old style two pin Boosey & Hawkes metal one. Recently my local shop threw in a Selmer two pin metal when I bought a clarient from them, but it was noticeably less good despite seeming an identical design. I once bought the Optimum but did not like it at all.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-04-09 15:32
String. Still better than anything else.
Second place - the lightest metal ligature I can find. I use a $5 Martin, with the screws on the bottom, bent with pliers, as GBK advises, so that the edges of the reed aren't squezzed.
For me, at least, the heavier and more elaborate the ligature, the more it sound it absorbs.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-04-09 17:14
I rotate among 3 - depending on playing circumstance and particular reed response:
1. Rovner "light" - old style (early 1980's) with small cut-out in the center and 3 slits above/4 slits below center cut-out.
2. Rovner Eddie Daniels - original model (when first made) with fixed inside plates and fabric ribs (not plastic) that grip the mouthpiece.
3. Bonade inverted (only when properly adjusted)...GBK
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Author: Betsy
Date: 2002-04-09 17:17
Love my Optimum. Love using the face plate with the 4 dots for looser playing and trying to find a vibrato.
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Author: Sarah
Date: 2002-04-09 21:21
Has to be a vote for the Optimum from me.
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Author: Chrissie
Date: 2002-04-10 01:29
I adored my harrison for a long time... but the poor little thing broke. they're just soooo delicate...
now i'm on a rovner eddie daniels. it suits me pretty well.
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Author: Mary
Date: 2002-04-10 02:48
I've loved my oleg, tho it's far too pricey, but I've come to find string superior to anything else- all for the price of a rite-aid hiking boot lace...
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Author: willie
Date: 2002-04-10 03:22
After spending an afternoon in one of the major music shops, and trying out several different ligs and reeds, I walked out fancying the one I walked in with, my Harrison. Now if I can just find one like it for my contra.
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Author: Alyson
Date: 2002-04-10 11:32
To those of you who use string, does it take long to do secure the reed? Can ajustments be made easily or does it take a long time?
Please excuse my ignorance.
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Author: Alyson
Date: 2002-04-10 11:33
Sorry, just read previous post. Shocking typos! Many apologies.
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Author: Katfish
Date: 2002-04-11 01:11
String Ligature- 20 seconds to put on (with Practice). Adjustment are faster than a regular ligature.
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Author: Clairgirl
Date: 2002-04-11 03:33
Can you switch clarinets (from Bb to A) quickly with a string ligature? just wondering. It seems like it could be a disaster if it slips off....
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Author: David Dow symphony NB
Date: 2002-04-24 13:38
Bonades are fine but tend to come off on the change from A to Bb clarinets at any opportunity. So I have less trouble in orchestra with the Rovners which I have modified somewhat. Also sometimes i feel the bonade tends towards shrillness in the upper register altissimo from high A up, and so i prefer the Dark.
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