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Author: Wendy
Date: 1999-07-14 02:34
I'm trying to find information about G Penzel Clarinets. I was told to search the BB archives and I did (I searched Klarinet archives too) and all I've found is info about Penzel & Mueller clarinets. I'm almost sure it's the same Penzel, because somebody said that was a New York based company and the clarinet I saw was stamped with "G Penzel New York Professional" . I'm assuming Professional is the model. I saw somebody on the archives was selling a G Penzel C Clarinet that was made in the 1800's. Does anybody know anything else?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 1999-07-14 03:00
Everything I've got on the Penzels & Penzel-Mueller:
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Penzel, Johann August (d Lubeck 31 October 1873). WWI fl Lubeck 19c.
BIBLIOGRAPHY: Hennings 1951.
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Penzel, Christoph Friedrich (d ?1896) WWI fl Markneukirchen late 19c.
BIBLIOGRAPHY: 4/716.705,20.691.
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Penzel, G.L., & Bro. WWI fl New York 1882-1998.
Established 1881 in Germany by the brothers Gustav Ludwig ('Louis') (b Germany 4 October 1855; d New York 27 May 1920) and Gustav F. ('Frederick') Penzel; 1882, on immigration, transferred to New York; 1898 joined by their relative E.G. Muller; 1899 succeeded by PENZEL & MULLER. Specialist in flute (4k-6k models) and clarinet, especially German system.
MARK: [a] (American eagle with downturned wings) / G.L. PENZEL / & BRO. / NEW YORK '(eagle), G.L. Penzel, New York' ADDRESS: 1882-84: 216 Sixth Avenue; 1885-99: 368 Bowery.
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Penzel & Muller (Mueller) WWI fl New York 1899 pl 1950.
1899 established as partnership between G.L. PENZEL and Edward Georg Muller (b Germany 1869; d New York 6 November 1956); from 1920 as 'Penzel & Mueller'; 1920-55 Mueller served as company President, retiring 1925 from production work and building the firm into the leading American maker of standard WWI lines; his sons Walter and Gustave were also active in the firm. From c1920-1935 the firm owned the A.G. BADGER CO.; 1946 the firm Of CLOOS was acquired. Employed trade name 'Empire State'; see also LAUBIN, PRUEFER, W.S. RICHARDS.
MARK: [a: 1899-1920] (American eagle) / G.L. PENZEL & MUELLER / NEW YORK / [b: from 1920] PENZEL-MUELLER / NEW YORK
ADDRESS: 1899: 368 Bowery; 11)01-216 Cooper Square: 1921-70 31-11, 33rd St, Long Island City, NY.
INVENTION: application of "Nicolene' (nickel-silver alloy) for WWI keys.
PATENT: 1899 (US) #023422 (G.L. Penzel and E.G. Mueller): improved 'simplesystem' clarinet mechanism.
BIBLIOGRAPHY: Farrar in NAMIS 7.3, 8.1(1989). AMIS committee (private communication).
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Penzel, J.C. BI fl Leipzig 1842-1880.
1842 established by Johann Christoph (b Elster/ Adorf 15 March 1817; d Leipzig 5 May 1879) as successor to C.F. SATTLER, whose daughter he had married. Trombone specialist. 1879 his son Christoph Hermann Robert (b 1947; d 1880) became his successor, but only survived him by one year. Both SCHOPPER and (2) 0. ULLMANN were each later to call themselves his successor; however the former opened nine years, the latter 23 years after Penzel's death, both at different addresses.
MARK: 'J.C. Penzel, sonst C.F. Sattler'
LOCATION: tenor trombone: D-Leipzig: 3303; bass trombone: D-Berlin: 28 [X].
BIBLIOGRAPHY: Heyde 1980b.
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Penzel, Karl Robert WWI fl Adorf 1897-pl930.
1900 advertised as maker of flute, oboe, clarinet.
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Penzel, Ludwig WWI fl Markneukirchen ?20c.
A 'trommelflote' reported.
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 1999-07-14 15:54
I have several P_M cls and once had a pair of G Penzel's [old]Muller-Alberts which ,illadvisably, I gave away to get rid of the smell!! My earlier posts re: PM may be what you recall. Will be glad to reply to questions. Mark can supply some Langwill info. Don
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 1999-07-14 16:00
You sure do have info, Mark, Wendy will be happy ,I hope , with our "concurrent"? responses.
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Author: nadav
Date: 2010-07-04 06:23
I have a P+M Clarinet Brilliante model.
I would like to know how much it's worth if someone can help me.
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Author: jasperbay
Date: 2010-07-04 13:14
Wood or metal P-M Brilliante; $50 'as-is', $100 'playable', $150-200 'restored'.
You can check this by going to 'the online auction site' click on "advanced search", type in 'Brilliante' then check "completed listings". Should be several over the past year.
Clark G. Sherwood
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