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Author: Sneakers
Date: 2002-03-23 04:29
Is there any kind of tremolo fingering for playing a throat tone A to a clarion C#? I already know about putting as many fingers down as possible when playing the A.
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-03-23 04:43
Yikes, how awful! I'm stumped. My best solution might even be to buy another A Clarinet just to tremolo G# to C. Or double on an E-flat and tremolo E to G#, which is itself no picnic.
Perhaps GBK, Master of Weird Fingering, can offer a less expensive or cumbersome solution.
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-03-23 05:12
Sneakers/JMcAulay...
As you mentioned the obvious remedy is to try and leave as many fingers down as possible for the A.
But...that's no fun. Try something a little bizarre:
First, the clarinet must be held between the knees while fingering the following for C#:
T x - x - x right side key#2 from top(w/right thumb)/ x - x - x C# (w/ right pinky)
and trill down to the A by trilling 1st -2nd -3rd left hand fingers together, leaving everything else in place.
Of course as I said, in order to use the right thumb on the second top right side key, the clarinet must be held between the knees.
Obviously, I have too much time on my hands...GBK
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-03-23 05:37
slight correction...
Right thumb should be on top right side key #1 (not #2) ...GBK
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Author: Wes
Date: 2002-03-23 17:26
One could switch to clarinet in Eb and then try to shake E to G#, also difficult.
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-03-24 00:12
GBK, you have struck again. This one should have been in Casimir "Chilidog" Kell's unpublished monograph, "Weird and Useless Fingerings." I find that it works a bit better on my stick by depressing the register key as well and trilling L2 and L3 only; otherwise, mine sounds an A-flat instead of an A. The lower note is a bit stuffy either way, but quite okay for a tremolo. It's a bit less stuffy by trilling T and L1 (without the register key down), but that's a bit less snappy. I also find that depressing side 2 with the first joint of R1 is easy, with R1 covering its hole quite well. so that the "grab it between the knees" routine is not required. Of course, I do play one of those "In-line side key" Clarinets, which may not be quite as cumbersome as yours. 
Three cheers to you! But that doesn't mean I don't hate you for that accursed Vegemite song.
Regards,
John
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Author: GBK
Date: 2002-03-24 01:13
JMcAulay...I like your corollary to my totally useless fingering. For what it's worth (which isn't much), these "out of left field fingerings" entirely depend on your particular brand of clarinet and whether you attempt these on the A or Bb clarinet.
Hmmm....I'm starting to feel a doctoral disertation paper in the making. Stop me, please, before I ask you to be the co-editor ...GBK
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Author: Sneakers
Date: 2002-03-24 04:36
Thanks for the suggestions! I tried GBK's fingering and it really didn't work horribly well, but perhaps I need to spend more time on it. I'll try JMcAulay's when my family is awake. They don't care much for live clarinet music when they are trying to sleep.
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Author: JMcAulay
Date: 2002-03-24 04:58
Sneakers: As GBK says, some bizarre fingerings will work maybe, differently, or occasionally not at all depending on the particular brand and model of instrument. Rarely, but much more often than never, individual instruments of the same marque and type may behave differently. So when you see one of these really weird fingerings, you may have to change it a bit to get it to work on your instrument. I'm really glad you asked the question, because it gave GBK an opportunity to shine. And older people have a crying need to feel useful from time to time.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-03-24 21:43
GBK old? - and I thought he was a youngster!
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-03-24 21:46
Sneakers - I believe Leblanc make a couple of clarinets which solve this problem with a "jump key" to facilitate such a tremolo to C sharp - I'll check
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