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Author: Fred
Date: 2002-03-18 01:57
Since Moennig and Chadash barrels are so acclaimed, why do "standard" barrels continue to be supplied with clarinets? Are there also many people out there that have tried these Name Brand barrels and decided . . . "Nah, I like my old one better." Now I can certainly see someone saying, "It's better . . . but not $100 better." But why not include them up front instead of the old design?
Just wondering . . .
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2002-03-18 02:18
Buffet, Leblanc, and Yamaha supply mouthpieces many do not like to use. It may be the same thing.
As to Chadash, it has a Buffet marking and sold with a new horn if a buyer likes it. Maybe Moennig too.
Since I learned here that Selmer 10G is a exact copy of the Moenig tuned Buffet owned by Gigliotti, I knew why it sounded so sweet when I played one in my 20s and that even the barrel may have been copied.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-03-18 02:32
Moennig is supoplied with many Buffet clarinets. My son's Festivals came with both cylindrical an Moennig taper barrels.
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Author: Fred
Date: 2002-03-18 02:41
Are they as useful and popular on other makes like Leblanc, Selmer, and Yamaha? How about the Rossi's and other handmade clarinets? I hear about them much more often in reference to Buffet clarinets.
Also, I realized that Moennigs were supplied on high-upper-end horns; why not on R13's and other similar horns if they are so much better? Is it strictly marketing that forces you to buy a $70 standard barrel before replacing it with a $100 barrel?
Greg Smith made me a believer when he sent a Chadash along with some mp's to try. They work so well for me, I'm trying to understand the reason for continuing to manufacture the standard barrels.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-03-18 02:45
When you're working on a price-leader like an R13 you're interested in keeping costs down. That barrel costs nothing like $70 to the manufacturer.
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Author: Fred
Date: 2002-03-18 03:05
How much more does it cost to change the bore to a Chadash or a Moennig? Do they have to pay royalties?
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-03-18 03:18
A tapered bor is going to cost more than a straight bore. I don't know if Moennig had a patent and whether or not the patent is still active.
Guy Chadash is of course alive and well and making clarinets and barrels in NYC.
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Author: William
Date: 2002-03-18 14:38
Some clarinets sound better with their original barrels, like my LeBlanc Concerto Bb. I purchased a Greg Smith supplied Chadash barrel that improved the sound or my Concerto A, but was unable to find one to work on my Bb. On my R-13 Bbs, I use a 6-7-67 Springer barrel on one, but the other one plays best with its original barrel. Guess my point is simple--the custom barrels do not always make improvements. They should be evalueated on an individual instruments needs basis only. Like Duke said, "If it sounds good, it is good." Good Clarineting, and "Roll Out the Barrel" (another tune that kind of sticks in your mind--sorry)
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Author: Wayne Thompson
Date: 2002-03-19 05:04
Does anyone know what sort of barrels the two that come with Patricola clarinets are?
From their literature:
"CL.2, CL.3, CL.4, CL.5, CL.6 models are complete with two barrels B1 and B2 of different shape in order to obtain two different types of sound."
Wayne Thompson
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