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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2002-02-22 04:26
I may be going to buy a Hammerschmidt clarinet in Boehm system. It was designed for small handed Japanese people and tuned in A=442Hz by the special order from a Japanese shop. They say this reformed Boehm Hammerschmidt to be used with a Oehler type mouthpiece.
If there are any people who know what type of Oehler type mouthpiece are available or recommended, prefarably hand made ones, please adbise me.
Thank you,
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Author: donald nicholls
Date: 2002-02-22 09:01
visit the Zinner web site, or find out what you can about Viotto Mouthpieces (he makes French and German style 'pieces, and is pretty darn good at it!). Also, you could try Herr Seggelke of "Swenke und Seggelke" (i hope my spelling is ok). There are a gazillion mouthpiece refacers/craftspeople in D-land, however many of these skilled people have a small output, and may not be on the internet.
I'm sure that some of the sneezy contributers from D-land can come up with many helpful suggestions!
nzdonald
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Author: Hans de Nijs
Date: 2002-02-22 11:36
I'm playing also reform Boehm instruments (F. Wurlitzer) and can fully recommend the Heinz Viotto mouthpieces with N1 facing, made for the Vandoren White Master no. 3 reeds. In Holland mostly every professional is playing Wurlitzer reform Boehm with Viotto mouthpieces. Viotto uses Zinner blanks. In my experience the type "R" was the best one for my reform Boehm instruments. The best way is to try the different types (if available).
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-02-22 19:51
I think Hiroshi is thinking along the lines of a "German Mouthpiece", which is considerably different than a "French" mouthpiece.
BTW - A=442 is a very common pitch standard and in fact many of the Buffet models are pitched in A=442, even those sold in the USA.
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Author: donald nicholls
Date: 2002-02-22 20:45
many Asian countries play at A=442, many European countries play at A=442 or even higher (try playing in tune with the Peter edition "music minus one" CDs!). Germany used to tune at A=445, aparently, but is now generally not that high i am told- my harp playing friend who worked in Hamburg for years tuned at A=444, but Harps always tune a bit high on purpose (same as tuned percussion- many Vibraphones etc from Japan are at A=443)
re mouthpiece- Hiroshi, check out the mouthpiece you get with the instrument. If it is from FRANK Hammerschmidt the mouthpiece that comes with the clarinet may be all you need- i tried one of these (belonging to Jozeph Balogh) some years ago and he used the original mp from Herr H, though he has changed since then. It would probably be good to get used to the different style of instrument etc before you went shopping for another mouthpiece anyway!
keep blowing the "forest air", i often think of that (forest air) when i'm doing my tone studies!
nzdonald
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Author: ron b
Date: 2002-02-22 21:43
Thanks, Mark.
Re: BTW - A=442 is a very common pitch standard...
I kinda thought so but wasn't really sure.
The part of your post I didn't understand, Hiroshi, was: "...tuned in A=442Hz by the *special order* from a Japanese shop".
I think I'm straightened out now. There's hope for me yet, no?
It's those loose marbles keep rattlin' around....
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Author: werner
Date: 2002-02-23 02:20
There isn't much more to say. Only perhaps:
I've never seen a hand made German mouthpiece for sale.
New German mouthpieces (Zinner, Viotto, .. )are faced with
high precision machines.
Hiroshi, you are talking about Frank Hammerschmidt, aren't you?
The mouthpiece that comes with a Frank Hammerschmidt
clarinet is very likely a Zinner mouthpiece.
Many makers in Germay (Keilwerth for example) don't bother
to produce their own mouthpieces. Their mouthpieces are
rebranded Zinner mouthpieces (AFAIK).
Yes, there are other very interesting small makers.
But I think they are difficult to check over there in Japan.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2002-02-25 00:35
>I've never seen a hand made German mouthpiece for sale.
New German mouthpieces (Zinner, Viotto, .. )are faced with
high precision machines.
Thank you although I was a little dissapointed. At least I may have to request barrel and mouthpiece reamered together.
>The part of your post I didn't understand, Hiroshi, was: "...tuned in A=442Hz by the *special order* from a Japanese shop".
The ergonomic design requirement and the tuning requirement are two different things by the shop owner. I do not know what the tuning requirement necessitates, but if it is taken very seriously it would be necessary to change all the key hole positions very slightly. I think so since the Selmer introduced Selmer Signature two or three years latern in Japan than in America and I asked its Sales representative why and they replied the whole design should be changed from A=440Hz to 442Hz since Signature's sales point is its exact pitch. However, at the same time I don't think Otmar Hammershmidt does so much things to the request of a shop owner. Maybe certain kind of comprimise might be taken place.
>you are talking about Frank Hammerschmidt, aren't you?
There are two different manufacturers, Otmar and Frank Hammerschmidt at different locations in Wien.
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Author: werner
Date: 2002-02-25 06:05
Hiroshi,
Frank Hammerschmidt is lokated in Burgau, Germany
Karl Hammerschmidt & Söhne is located in Burgau, Germany
<b>Otmar</b> Hammerschmidt is located in Wien, Austria.
There is a big difference between an Otmar H. clarinet
and an Karl H. clarinet. Different sound concept.
Different mouthpieces. Different bore.
Otmar Hammerschmidt produces his own mouthpieces AFAIK.
But Otmar Hammerschmidt produces Reform Boehm clarinets ?????
I can't believe that. Please check that out again.
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Author: Mark Pinner
Date: 2002-02-25 09:32
Vandoren make a variety of German mouthpieces from VD0 to VD5. The are made to take German size reeds such as White Masters or Austrian Reeds like Black Masters depending on the model. The VD3 is a good starter and free blowing and feels more open than the French mouthpieces such as the B45. They are also reasonably priced compared to some others. Hammerschmidt mouthpieces are average as are Schreiber, Adler and Ueble. I hope you can tie a shoelace!!!!!!
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