 The Clarinet BBoard
|
Author: Top Bananna
Date: 2002-02-13 09:36
Anyone konw what year this selmer 10G in A could be E6387
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: William
Date: 2002-02-13 15:16
The only real question should be, "How does it play??" These "G" models were developed by Selmer for the late Anthony Gigliotti, then Principal Clarinetist for the Philadelphia Orchestra, to compete with the ever popularity of the Buffet R-13. They are good instruments and, although I have never played a 10G A, I have played a Bb that was wonderful. And I have always liked the sound of other clarinetists playing on 10G Bbs. So, here is Duke Ellington "on clarinet" again, "If it sounds good, it is good." His comment, of course, was referring to classical music vs pop or jazz, but the wisdom of his simple statement serves us in the clarinet community as well. Age should not be your concern, but rather sound--in tune (?), even scale (?), focus from loud to soft (?), etc. If everyone does not get up and run out of the room screaming when you start to play, you are probably on to something good. Just kidding, of course, but often it is helpful to have somone else listen and evaluate your sound because your tone perception as a player is often not as reliable as someone a bit of a distance away. This is also the best test for mouthpieces and reeds because much of what we perceive as sound is actually being transmitted via teeth and bone to our inner ear, rather than via air waves as to the audience. That is also why your voice sounds so much "different" when you hear a recording of it played back to you. A reed sound that is "thin" to us, may sound full and vibrant to the audience. OK--TOO MUCH TALK Bottom line--don't be overly concerned with age--if it sounds good to you and your friend and is in tune, it is a good instrument. Good Clarineting!!!!!!!
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-02-13 17:22
TB -
Ralph Morgan tells great stories about the Selmer 10Gl. Search the archives under "Selmer" and "Morgan." The short answer is thatthere are some great 10Gs, but many are out of tune, so you should check the intonation carefully.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Nick
Date: 2002-02-14 02:50
I have a 10G A with an E6xxx serial number. I think it's from the early eighties. It does, however, sound and play wonderfully. Intonation is great. Mr. Gigliotti selected it for me last year and gave it his seal of approval. It had, however, a complete set up done by Mike Hammer in Philadelphia, so that might be part of it. Overall, I like most of the 10G's I've played on (especially Mr. G's personal set). But I know a few "lemons" exist. (I've played a couple of those, too). So be careful, I guess... good luck!
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: diz
Date: 2002-02-14 04:42
Yes, well - it would seem that ALL brands have lemons, not just Selmers.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-02-14 17:21
diz -
According to Ralph Morgan, it's more than just lemons. He says he was in charge of the finishing process at Selmer when the 10G came out. He said he sent Selmer design specs for the 10G that made it a semi-finished instrument (unplayable as it came over from France). He set up a custom finishing group of excellent tuners and voicers in Elkhart, who turned out several hudred 10Gs that were top quality clones of Gigliotti's own hand-made instruments. Then Selmer shut the operation down, and Morgan sent a new set of specs to Selmer, so that the machine-made 10Gs would at least be playable, but a fair number of them were sold in their unfinished state.
If you call him or see him at a show, he will tell you the serial number range of the hand-finished 10Gs. From Mark's Resources list, his phone number is 937-322-5041. I used to know the range, but I misplaced the piece of paper I wrote it down on. If anyone calls him, I'd appreciate it if you could post those numbers.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: GBK
Date: 2002-02-14 17:41
Ralph Morgan is also a treasure trove of information on the Selmer saxes (Mark VI, etc...).
At one of the Clarinetfests, he once gave me so much "behind the scenes" info (as Ken had already mentioned) on the Selmer saxophones, it was staggering...GBK
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: GBK
Date: 2002-02-14 17:46
One other thing:
If you really want to get Ralph going, ask him about his thoughts on the square chambered S-80 sax mouthpiece.
Pull up a chair....you'll be there a while...GBK
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: saxack
Date: 2024-02-04 23:56
New to the forum and excited to post my new acquisition. Just finished taking off all the keywork. I haven’t been able to play it yet as this was sitting untouched for over 45 years in a very high and dry climate. All the tenon rings and bell ring were loose. It’s sitting in a humidifier and I’ll keep checking on it.
It’s in amazing condition with all original pads, etc. And to think that this actual clarinet was most likely hand finished by Ralph Morgan himself is remarkable. I’m currently playing on a Series 9, W58XX (1970) and a 1994 Buffet R13. I’m so looking forward to comparing the 3 clarinets.
Will keep you posted!!
250-818-1955
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
The Clarinet Pages
|
 |
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
