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 What note to trill?
Author: Susan Marvin 
Date:   2002-02-06 19:18

The question is ---
What note to trill up to -- C sharp or C natural?????? We do know the rule is one step up in key!!! But what is the key in this particular piece?

G Major key signature (one sharp)
Passage before trill is B minor chord pattern
Trill note is B natural above staff -- Trill sign does not have a sharp or flat

other information if needed
Piece is Funiculi Funicula by Luigi Denza & arranged by Philip J. Lang for band
6/8 time with notes & rest being 8th notes-- each line is a measure

B, rest, B ties to C #, rest C# tied to
B, rest, B ties to C#, rest C#,
B tied to D, F# with trill starting on B for 4 measures

Thank you
Susan Marvin

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 RE: What note to trill?
Author: diz 
Date:   2002-02-06 20:37

Might I suggest you read William Lovelock's wonderful book on Ornamentation - he explains "correct" usage etc. Generally, if the work is baroque (not so relevant for the clarinet) then you would start on the note and trill up. In all other cases start on the note above (according to the key signature) and then trill down to the base note. If the composer wants to indicate that the trill note should be sharpened or flattened - he/she will indicate this with a tiny sharp or flat sign above the trill sign.

Hope this helps

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 RE: What note to trill?
Author: Dee 
Date:   2002-02-06 20:42

diz,

Don't you have that backwards? Baroque would typically start the trill on the note above while later and modern works start on the note itself. Also in Baroque, whether they start above or on the note somewhat on the material leading up to it.

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 RE: What note to trill?
Author: diz 
Date:   2002-02-06 20:45

Bugger! Yes I did - my brain was ahead of my fingers!

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 RE: What note to trill?
Author: Susan Marvin 
Date:   2002-02-06 21:48

I did/do know to strart on base note and trill one step up according to key signature -- plus sharp or flat according to sign by trill BUT my questions is ------ ??????

I say -- To trill from B natural in key of G major (one #) it would be a C.

Friend says -- To trill from B natural in this passage use your ear. The passage before is in B minor chord and you should trill to a C#.

I say -- if he wanted a C# he would have written TR#.

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 RE: What note to trill?
Author: Emms 
Date:   2002-02-06 21:53

It's been known for mistakes to be made in copying music (apologies to those who do this for a living, but it's true). If you're in B minor, chances are you need a C#, but also, do use your ears. Which sounds best?

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 RE: What note to trill?
Author: William 
Date:   2002-02-07 15:30

Let the underlying harmonic accompaniment to that trill be your guide. To the best of my recollection, this trill begins over a (concert) A maj chord, but since each measures harmony changes, a trill to C natural would fit. At least, you all need to reach a consenses so that you all get the same "trill" out of the music. Let your collective ears (and your conductor) be your guide. Good Clarineting!!

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