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Author: Laura
Date: 2002-01-15 17:53
I am looking for a small, portable recorder that records with good sound quality. I heard that Sony makes a good one (couple hundred bucks) and requires a mini disc. Does anybody know of any other brands or models that are good for recording masterclasses and lessons? Price isn't a concern.
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Author: rmk
Date: 2002-01-15 18:12
I just bought a Sony minidisc player for my daughter for that very reason. It works great!
Make sure you get a good mike to go with it. For the recorder and the mike, I paid $275.
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Author: anna
Date: 2002-01-15 18:50
My dad bough me a Sony one last christmas for about $3000. It works SOOOOOOOOOO well. I don't like the design though. the buttons are a bit small.
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Author: Ken Shaw
Date: 2002-01-15 21:07
Laura -
This has been discussed often on the Klarinet board, where Ben Maas, a professional player who makes his living as a recording engineer, has given really definitive advice. Go to the Klarinet search page and search on "Maas and minidisk" (without the quote marks.
Best regards.
Ken Shaw
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-01-15 21:16
Yeppers, I agree - the minidisc player is the way to go. You'll be pleasantly surprised at the quality of the recording, too.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-01-15 21:31
If you don't mind used, a DAT tape machine can be had for near the price of a new mini-disc. It's a better choice if you're going to do a lot of recording ... but a good mic will be significantly more than $300 anyway ...
If you're just using it to record yourself, the mini-disc is nice. However, for auditions, see the thread above. I agree with (whoever - I forget) who said to visit a college to try & get a good recording. I can tell you for a fact that the sound made a difference in the Sneezy Summer Competition - one or two of the recordings were not of sufficient quality for the judges to really know how the person sounded, and you only get one chance.
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-01-15 22:28
Interesting that you call it a summer competition - I'm assuming the Summer Competition for the antipoeans will be held soon?
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Author: diz
Date: 2002-01-16 00:03
Good to hear the lovely, defining imperialist side of our american cousins never weakens.
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2002-01-16 00:26
MD uses a data compression technology, which may be heard inferior to some than DAT or high end analogue casset deck.
The bottle neck of digital audio is its recording bit(ordinary 16 bit) and sampling rate. (As these values become higher, equipment prices become more expensive. )In other words, they do not pick up every elements of sound.) This is not the case for analogue machine. Another problem to use portable machines is how to play the recoreded contents. They are designed basically to use mini michrophones and earphones. Since their power and connections are very small(very large electric impedance), it will not be suitalbe to connect normal speakers or microphone , which may be necessary when you discuss one's performance with other people.
Nakamichi America has superb mobile IN-DASH casset decks. They are expensive though.
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Author: anna
Date: 2002-01-16 01:57
i saw some pretty good deals on ebay!!!!!
www.ebay.com
just dont compete me!!!!!!! ;-)
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2002-01-16 05:30
Hiroshi wrote:
> Nakamichi America has superb mobile IN-DASH casset decks. They
> are expensive though.<
<b>Everything</b> made by Nakamichi is superb ... and expensive.
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Author: beejay
Date: 2002-01-16 10:17
From personal experience, don't skimp on the microphone if you are buying a minidisk player. I have a Sony ECM-MS907, which gives quite good stereo recording. I would advise, however, using the manual recording function rather than the automatic. These machines are convenient, but not as good as the best analogue recorders.
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Author: Brenda Siewert
Date: 2002-01-16 14:04
Remember what Mark said about the DAT recorder. A friend of mine uses a DAT Sony that is small and very easily portable (it's the size of a walkman) and he even does concerts with his. He has his accompaniment recorded and plays it back. It sounds very, very good. I've seen the ones like he got for about $700.00
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Author: jbutler
Date: 2002-01-17 01:18
For home use I've found that the Fostex 18 cassette does a great job. Four track with the ability to "pong" or bounce tracks onto each other. The great thing about it is I can record three voices of a quartet and then play the other live for practice. Or you can make recordings similar to this for your students. I guess if you played enough different instruments you could record your own band or orchestra piece without the use of a midi! I admit midi would take less time to do! It is also very portable, operating on 4 AA batteries if necessary and takes up very little space. All I need.
jbutler
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Author: Hiroshi
Date: 2002-01-17 23:45
Brenda Siewert wrote:
>A friend of mine uses a DAT Sony that is small and very easily portable (it's the size of a walkman) and he even does concerts with his.
Until a few years ago, some Japanese young people recorded many concerts using Sony DATs at their seats and sold their copies to other young people. Obviously this is a criminal act. At last they were found and now people are checked at entrance whether they have DATs(of course in very gentle ways, in another words, by suspicious eyes). Those young people who have tickets of the center row, the best recording place, are specially checked. I reead many of those young people bring in two or three DATs, not one. I do not know the reason.
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Author: Mary
Date: 2002-01-18 03:49
For the money, minidisc recorders are fabulous. I have a Sony and got a separate Sony mic. There is occasionally some compression, but I haven't found it problematic for purposes of masterclass and recital recording. They're tiny, and the editing functions are way cool compared to cassette recorders. I don't know much about other brands, but the Sony is reasonably priced and well reputed on web-based consumer report sites.
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